Genealogy Chat

Hi Kate, Fanny did inherit some money but before Gibon's death. Gibon's brother Charles' will written in 1855 & proved in 1856 was a bit strange as he mentioned that his bequest to his brother Gibon 'shall be paid into the hands of his wife Fanny Rammell...' I wonder if Gibon was already ill and Fanny was looking after everything. Gillian

Hi Abbess, Yes that would make sense! The eldest son Gibon doesn't seem to have come out with much if anything at all! I'll apply for the wills & see if I can find out more. Gillian

Could well be that Fanny inherited some money from somebody else after her husband's death, though. Kate.

Gibon died before the Married Women's Property Act came into force, so Fanny's property would automatically have become her husband's. I would imagine that Gibon took care to dispose of his property in his lifetime, eg annuities to the daughters, funds to set sons up in business so far as he was able. This would avoid death duties. It was probably some time after his death that a savings account or other minor property was discovered. It may even have been left deliberately for a while, so that nobody queried why the administration wasn't for a larger sum.

Thank you very much Kate! I wonder why it took so long to sort out Gibon's affairs as he died in 1866? Thank you once again, Gillian

Found him! 1875 RAMMELL Gibbon Bushell Effects under £50. 27 April. Administration of the effects of Gibbon Bushell Rammell late of Crediton in the County of Devon Gentleman who died 13 January 1866 at Crediton was granted at the Principal Registry to Fanny Rammell of 6 Market-street Crediton Widow the Relict. Fanny's entry: 1880 RAMMELL, Fanny Personal Estate under £2,000. 25 March. Administration (with the Will) of the Personal Estate of Fanny Rammell late of Crediton in the County of Devon Widow who died 9 January 1880 at Ilfracombe in the said County was granted at Exeter to James Rammell of Crediton Gentleman the Son one of the Residuary Legatees. So, looks like Fanny was the one with the money! Is it possible that the eldest son Gib(b)on was not her son but the son of a first wife? Or perhaps she just wanted to make sure her daughters were provided for and thought the sons could look after themselves. Anyway, I expect it will all be explained when you get her will. Kate.

Ok Gillian I am glad Exeter office can get it for you as they have all the wills for England and Wales

Hi Val, Thanks for the offer but I can get it by post. I ran the Exeter office and the lady there checked the reference & a will for Fanny does exist. Thanks for your help & kind offer. Gillian

If I go in to the office I can write what it says and if you want a copy it costs a £5 you can send me the money and your address and I will get it sent to you

Pete you're a star!!! How do I get a copy?? Gillian

If it's any help the wife DID have a Will. Exeter 1880. Folio 621 Pete

Hi Val, That would be great! Many thanks, Gillian

I can look and see if wife left a will if you want

Hi Kate, Exeter searched 1866-69. Gibon died 21st Jan 1866 Crediton but was buried in Margate Kent. His occupation was Gentleman! I think his wife Fanny Rammell died in 1880 Barnstaple, Devon. She was living in Crediton in 1871. Thanks again for the lookup offer!!! Regards, Gillian

Gillian - the Death Duties Register Index is on the 'National Archivist' website. http://www.nationalarchivist d o t c o m You have to buy credits. I had a look at 1867 on there and he wasn't there either. All I really need to search on the National Probate Calendar in this case is what you have already posted up, because he had such a rare name. If he was called John Smith I would want the date of his death, his address, occupation, and the names of his wife and children! I will certainly have a look the next time I go to the record office, and will let you know if I find anything. Do you happen to know which years they searched at Exeter? Kate.

Hi again Kate, Thanks for looking at the death duty register. Where is it??? I live in France & have two young children so cannot easily get to any record office in the UK!! I would really appreciate your kind offer if you have the time to spare! What info do you need from me? Thanks, Gillian

Hi Kate, Death Duty Registers??? Sounds interesting. How do I search them?? Gillian

Hi Abbess, When I spoke to the Exeter office, they said that the index is national. As Gibon originally came from Kent & was buried there, I did wonder if the records were there instead. The lady at the Exeter office assured me that the search would have found him anywhere in the UK. Thanks, Gillian

No, can't find him in the Death Duties Register for 1866, but I suppose he could be in the following year. Anyway, I agree you would be best to go and search through the National Probate Calendar yourself, but let me know if you can't get to anywhere that holds it (e.g. record offices, probate offices) and I will have a look next time I go to the record office. The thing is, though, if you are looking for your own rellies you don't give up as quickly as if you are looking for somebody else's! Kate.

Hi Pete, Thanks for your reply. The Gibon you have found was indeed my Gibon's father. I have a copy of his will. Gillian