Genealogy Chat

Give me as much information as you have, ie date of birth, if known and any other siblings or parents and I will see what I can do - 1841 is only for the following counties: Cambridgeshire, Cornwall, Derbyshire, Devon, Dorset, Essex, Glamorgan, Gloucestershire (includes Bristol and suburbs, Herefordshire, Lincolnshire, Monmouthshire, Norfolk, Nottinghamshire, Somerset, Staffordshire, Suffolk, Warwickshire, Wiltshire, Worcestershire Regards Sue

Thanks for your kind offer Sue, Could you have a look for any info on ROBERT MARK b1844 in Brampton Cumberland. Father John, mother elizabeth. I would love to know where he was on the 1851 census (I guess around the Brampton area) and who he was living with as I think his parents died before 1851. Any info you can find would be fantastic... thanks Karen

Hello Karen Sorry bombed out on Robert Mark, cant find him on 1851 - it could be he is living with another family and his surname has gone down as theirs. Sorry again, regards Sue

Thanks for your efforts Sue, could I be really cheeky and ask if you can see any signs of Roberts brother JOHN MARK b1838? Again he should be around the Brampton area somewhere..... I have John on the 41/61/71/81/91 and 01. Only the 1851 left to find !!! I know that they also had a brother called MARK MARK. Any signs of this brother would be appreciated.... lots to ask!!! Hopefully I can repay the favour one day, thanks Karen

Hi Sue, It's very kind of you to offer. could you do a marriage look up for me please. William Jones - Shoemaker b 1862 Hampton Cheshire. Marriage to Mary Elizabeth ? in Chester in 1884/1886. His father was John Jones Shoemaker. Many thanks Regards Lou

Hello Rosemary Sorry but so far unable to find William or Sophia - but will keep looking later. Think I have found Sarah in 1871 and her marriage. Kind regards Sue Name: Pateshall, Sarah Ann marrying either DOWN, John or Murray, Edward Record Type: Marriages Quarter: June Year: 1874 District: Aston County: Warwickshire Volume: 6d Page: 489 1871 Census RG10/3140 Folio 18 Page 31 3 Daveys or Deveys Buildings, Bordesley, Aston, Warwickshire Henry Millward, Head, 32, Brass Founder, b. Birmingham, Warwickshire Ann Millward, Wife. 31, b. Birmingham, Warwickshire Titus Millward, Son, 5, b. Birmingham, Warwickshire Charlotte Millward, Daughter, 3, b. Birmingham, Warwickshire Sarah Patchell, Niece, 16, General Servant, b. Birmingham, Warwickshire I believe this is Sarah mistranscribed if you look at the image it looks like Pateshall

HI CAN U DO A SEARCH OFF 1841 CENSUS ( SCOTLAND ) ELSPETH COCKBURN & THOMAS COCKBURN LARGO FIFE THANX

Hi Sue if possible can you look up Thomas Elliott born c1826 in Durham father William, both Blacksmiths i believe. Also Ann Brown c1828 father William, a ragman of some kind. I cant find them on Ancestry 1851, but if you are using anything that would be great. Also 1841 if possible many thanks

RE: The MARKS The only John Mark I could find on 1851 is as follows: 1851 Census HO107/2118 Folio 252 Page 22 High Street, Barton on Humber, Lincolnshire John Mark, Head, Widow, 39, Rope Maker, b. Carlise, Cumberland William, Son, 14, b. Cumberland (actual place hard to read) John, Son, 12, b. Cumberland (actual place hard to read) Ann Parker or Partee, Housekeeper, Widow, 35, b. Wales In relation to Mark Mark, I know this is not a brother, but believe this is John Mark in 1901 and he has a son called Mark Mark. John Mark, Head, b. abt 1838 Brampton, Cumberland Margaret Mark, wife, b. abt 1840 Southport, Lancashire Mark Mark, Son, b. abt 1882 Brampton, Cumberland George Mark, Son, b. abt 1882 Brampton, Cumberland Hope it helps Regards sue

Hello Lou Below is the only Willliam Jones I can find getting married to a Mary Elizabeth in the District of Chester between 1884 and 1886, however, unfortunately there are 2 Mary Elizabeth's on the same page Name: JONES, William marrying either BEESTON, Mary Elizabeth or SWAIN, Mary Elizabeth Record Type: Marriages Quarter: December Year: 1884 District: Chester County: Cheshire Flintshire Volume: 8a Page: 573 I would suggest that when you apply for the certificate you only enter William's name and only the first name for the wife, together with the full reference. Unfortunately I cannot confirm who William's father is from the BMD that is only possible from a marriage certificate Hope it helps Regards Sue

Hello Kath Sorry but I should have said I can only look up England and Wales information and not Scotland - apologies Kind regards Sue

Hi Sue, If you would be kind enough to have a look in 1841 census for Alexander Gardiner and family.......usually I find him quite easily with Alexander Gardiner born in Scotland in 1799 all his kids were born tottenham middlesex and i believe his wife was Sarah born in Suffolk Thank you if you have the time Kaz

Thanks for all your hard work Sue, John did have a son called Mark Mark - that was him on the 1901 (my gg grandfather) I guess the search continues for the family on the 51 - thanks again. Karen

Hello Robyn I think this is your Elliott's even though Thomas' age is out a bit, but I have seen this on my side where the enumerator has got two of the children mixed up and switched the ages. Hope it helps - now going to look for your other individual. Kind regards Sue p.s. I do not have access to 1841 for Durham 1851 Census 19 William Street, Bishopwearmouth, Durham HO107/2395 Folio 118 Page 17 William Elliott, Head, Married, 53, Blacksmith, b. Whitburn, Durham Jane, Wife, 54, b. Hartley, Northumberland Thomas, Son, 19, Single, Blacksmith Apprentice, b. Bishop Wearmouth, Durham John, Son, 16, Blacksmith Apprentice, b. Bishop Wearmouth, Durham Jane, Daughter, 13, b. Bishop Wearmouth, Durham William, Son, 11, b. Bishop Wearmouth, Durham

Hi Sue, thanks for the information. I shall certainly look into it, I shall see if I can obtain a parish record now that I have something to go on. thanks again Sue, Good hunting, Regards Lou

Hello Kaz Sorry but I do not have access to 1841 census for Middlesex. I have tried searching for Alexander Gardiner and no results come back. There are 330 results for a Sarah Garinder. You mention his children, but no names, if you let me have them with approximately birth dates then I might be able to search for them instead and see what appears Sorry I couldnt help you at this time Kind regards sue

Could you possibly do a marriage look-up for me Sue. It's a Jack Mapp (c1889) to an Ivy (c1888). They did have four children later on but not til 1920's onwards. Any details would be greatly appreciated and thankyou for your kind offer.

Thanks Sue, that looks right, i found one earlier but Thomas was some kind of cart person!

Hello Kate Here are your Lishmans Regards Sue 1891 Census RG12/3968 Folio 6 Page 6 107 Falsgrove (or Folsgrove) Road, Scarborough Matthew Lishman, Head, Married, 52, Furniture Broker, b. Sand……, Scarborough Elizabeth, Wife, 53, b. Thirsk, Yorkshire John Chandler, Father-in-law, Widow, 79, Retired Shoemaker, b. Thirsk, Yorkshire Herbert Dove, Lodger, 16, Railway Parcel Porter, b. ?, Yorkshire I believe this is your Thomas although his age is out on Ancestry they have it as 59 but the image has 49! 1891 Census RG12/3887 Folio 42 Page 29 51 Moss Street, Holytrinity, Micklegate, York, Yorkshire Thomas Lishman, Head, Married, 49, Smith’s Striker, b. Sandhutton, Yorkshire Harriet, Wife, 47, b. Boston, Lincolnshire Alfred, Son, 9, Scholar, b. Leeds, Yorkshire Richard Bett, Boarder, Single, 29, Telegraph Lineman, b. Northallerton, Yorkshire Arthur Joiner, Board, Single, 18, Joiner, b. Malton, Yorkshire

Hi Sue, Would appreciate your help again please. 1841 Wales Census look up please. John Jones b 1823 Merionethshire, Dolgelley, Shoemaker Thanks again Sue, Lou