Genealogy Chat

Hello All.......We are doing a tree for our rather posh neighbour (wife of a judge, no less!!). Turns out she is from gypsie stock!! Can anyone read this census page? HO107/2122, Folio: 292, Page: 35. Family named Heaps. I can see Lucy. What's her daughter's name? I can tell there's some dodgy handwriting (or dodgy hearing of names)as the 11 year old should read ''Elias'' which it clearly doesn't!! ....None of the family have any registrations until 1875 (not even deaths). Happy Hunting - Merry x

The 11 year old reads Elliah- its close...! Gawd know what the daughter should be looking again........... looking at page before,top, ennumerators C is 'twiddly' and looks as thought it is followed by an e, which Carlton clealy isnt,

Hi Merry Not sure on this at all – the names I can make out are Alfred, Henry, John, what looks liked Goliah (I presume this is your Elias) and Deliah – looking at the handwriting it just makes the oldest daughters name even more unreadable!!!!!!!! Does she appear on the 1861 or are there any family names that it could be? It’s got me stumped – sorry. Looby

looks like Cinamont to me lol Not sure at all what it's supposed to be.

I think Mercy follows Alfred, not Henry ,although Male.... How old is Cinnamon or whatever her name is supposed to be? sorry you asked yet?

It looks like Cinament to me. I disagree about Mercy - it is Henry. Carole

That's a good point about Elliah - thanks Jess! No luck with Elias after this until 1881 when he is living in the same field as Alfred. After that he settles down into bricks and mortar! Alfred is on every census. John is on 1861 (haven't looked after that as it's Elias who is direct line) Can't find mum (ie the 50 year-old unmarried daughter in 1851) anywhere else, but goodness knows how she might have been recorded!! Deliah has vanished too after 1851 - she was my only hope for finding her mum again, if they both lived :O(( Merry

Merry, this her? Marriages Mar 1862 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Heaps Delilah Doncaster 9c 571 She might be around there in '61

found this i wonder if this is the name -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Derbyshire: - Registers of Marriages, 1558-1837a Derby all Saints' Marriages, 1813--1837. Marriages at all Saints', Derby (continued), 1813 to 30 June, 1837. Volume 6. County: Derbyshire Country: England ====John Heaps, chair-bottomer, & Cinementi Boswell 22 Sep 1828 i know its diff surname more than likely no relation Jeanette

OOh nice one Tracy - Will investigate straight away! Merry

or this Name: Heaps, Cennementer Record Type: Marriages Quarter: September Year: 1859 District: Worksop County: Derbyshire Nottinghamshire West Riding of Yorkshire Volume: 7b Page: 56 (click to see others on page)

There's a few Cinamenta's around in '61

Jeanette, I thought the 50 year old in 1851 was recorded as unmarried.....but surely that MUSt be her?????? Married to John Heaps. Why do you say the name is wrong?? It's right surely??? Where did you find that?? I don't recognise the format??

Merry, Parish & Probate records on Ancestry.

I can't keep up LOL merry

there's all these listed on Ancestry... Coates, Cinamenta 1885 December Deaths Croydon Surrey FLETCHER, Cinnamenti 1875 September Deaths Rugby Leicestershire Northamptonshire Warwickshire Hearn, Cinamenti 1898 March Deaths Wandsworth London Surrey Killick, Cinamentie 1899 March Deaths Eastry Kent View Record Lea, Cinnamente 1884 June Deaths Eastbourne Sussex East Sussex Lee, Cinamenty 1899 September Deaths Dartford Kent Stevens, Cinamenta 1855 September Deaths Farnham Hampshire Surrey Stokes, Ciname_t_ 1892 June Deaths Merthyr Tydfil Breconshire Glamorgan Mid Glamorgan WHITE, Cinamenta 1850 March Deaths Wycombe Buckinghamshire Gloucestershire Oxfordshire Has to be something like that.

brilliant - thank you everyone!! I just love that name, however you spell it!! I will do some prodding about and see what else I can find! Thanks again Merry