Genealogy Chat

Have YOU got any connection at all with the Blue Coats Sch or Orphange on your tree ?????? .......... if so .....

.......... ..... Could you PLEASE get in touch. My Grandfather 'supposedly' was either at the Blue Coats School .. or ... ended up at 'Blue Coats Orphanage'. I have been trying for years to find out information on this .... and the last 4 weeks I have been going round in circle's, making enquiries all over the place, but everywhere leads me to a blank. I know I read a thread ( I think on Records Office - but could have been here on Tips Board ) ...during the last few weeks, wherein the poster refered to the Blue Coats.... I had every intention of contacting the poster, ... but forgot. If it was YOU, or you have any info / advice on 'Blue Coats ..., then I really would appreciate hearing from you. I am really stuck. Elaine ;-)

Elaine which school are you after? if you google bluecoat school liverpool you will get two, one in stanmore rd and one in school lane,i found this which i am going back to look at, www(.)missing-ancestors(.)com remove brackets it lists all industrial schools sounds interesting...MOE!

Elaine, There was a Blue Coats School in London as well. My 3x g grandfathers brother and his wife were school masters there in the 1841 census. Rebs x

Elaine, I think there were many blue coats schools throughout England, as they were founded and endowed by a charitable organisation. Jay

Thanks everyone for your replies. Main problem: Definately KNOW Grandad was in an Orphanage ... he told me himself. Have recently found Grandad's brothers son ... same story, DEFINATELY in an Orphanage. The two brothers had run away from the orphanage on several occasions. !! But WHICH one and WHERE ?? Now it comes to light, that MAYBE it was the Blue Coats Orphanage ... and MAYBE in Cheshire ?? but the boys were born and brought up in Manchester. I have checked Blue Coats School in Cheetham, Manchester ... children not listed. Have checked Blue Coats Orphanage in Manchester ...children not listed. Have checked Styal Cottage's Orphanages in Cheshire ...children not listed Have checked with Cheshire Records Office and Manchester Records Office, and have followed every lead they have given me ... too many to list ... children can not be found listed any where. Blue Coats or no Blue Coats !!!! I KNOW that some members of the family did live in the Birkenhead area at some point .... and also the Blackpool area's as well ...... but BOTH parents died in Manchester ? I also believe that the children were in an orphanage whilst the FATHER was still alive.... and thus have checked all the Poor Houses, and various charitable homes .... such as Boys and Girls Welfare Society. etc . but to no avail. I have just sent an e,.mail to the Liverpool Records Office, regarding the registers for Liverpool Blue Coats School which was an Orphanage in 1910. Only time will tell now. I just thought that the poster of the thread I refer to, may see this thread and get in touch. Thanks folks Elaine ;-)

theres a bluecoat building in chester by the canal,on the same road as the town hall and close to the fountain roundabout.

I'm sure that threre is a Blue Coat school in Macclesfield Cheshire, not a million miles from Manchester. Carolyn

I was born in Manchester and my father paid a small insurance to the Blue Coats Schools. If he should die then my brother and I would have gone to the Blue Coats!!! (Presumably my father thought that my mother would not have been able to control us/feed us LOL). This was in the 1950s and as far as I can remember, the Blue Coats was an orphanage in the sense that it catered for children who had lost the breadwinner in the family - always the man in those days, of course, and had an enthusiastic following amongst the lower end of the whitecollar workers. 'My' Blue Coats was in Cheetham Hill, but as the other Posters have said, they were everywhere. And of course, there were numerous other charitable organisations for those who were allied to a particular trade or profession - the terror of the Workhouse was strong right into living memory. Olde Crone

There was one in Northgate Street Chester so if you ring the Heritage Centre at St.Michaels Church or the main Library, they may be able to give you info on it. Anne :)))

THANKS everyone, Alter ..... please make contact with Jess (if not already doneso !) ..I'll follow up your lead. Maureen (Old Crone), Thanks, Cheethams was the first one to be checked ...and my children aren't listed. Carolyn and Anne ... thanks, I'll follow those leads as well ;-) Thanks ......really appreciate the help. Elaine ;-)

*UPDATE* Have just received e.mail from Liverpool (re Blue Coats Sch) ......... Thank you for your recent email requesting a check of the Liverpool Blue Coat School/Orphanage to see if any Shawcross children were admitted between 1910 - 1917. I checked both the Application Books and the Admission and Dismissal Registers for the surname Shawcross for the period 1910-1917 but there weren't any entries at all. Obviously none of the Shawcross children were admitted to the Blue Coat School/Orphanage in Liverpool. There were other Blue Coat Schools apart from the one in Liverpool so there was probably a Blue Coat nearer to them than the one in Liverpool. Why not try a search on google and try and find out where the other Blue Coat Schools were located. Perhaps there was one in the Manchester area? I am sorry that I am unable to help you further. Yours truly, Margaret Daley Liverpool Record Office Oh well .................. back to the grind stone ........

Hi Elaine, Oh poor you, I feel so sorry for you! Dare I ask, which part of Manchester was your Grandad and his brother born? Speak to you soon, Take care Love Debs x

Hi Elaine, I'm fairly certain that there used to be a Bluecoat school in or near Warrington, Cheshire. I know it's no longer there but it would have been open in the 1920's and 30's. Sue

Thanks for all this extra info ......... I REALLY appreciate the help I'm getting from you guys, ......it all helps in the long run x Elaine ;-) Debs is now VERY relieved to hear that NO ! they weren't born in Salford xx Worse: One was b 1900 Sculcoates, Yorks, the others were b 1902/4/6 in Manchester (Halston St.) Mum died 1910 and was living at 26 Lythgoe St, Manchester. Death registered:, sub district Newton Heath (Registration Prestwich) .... if this can narrow down any possibilities ! Elaine ;-)

Hi, There was (and still is ) a Blue Coat school on Egerton St, Oldham, and Oldham was at one time Oldham cum Prestwich, though I don`t know when they dropped the Prestwich bit. Jay.

Hi My husbands father used to atttend Oldham Bluecoat school in the1920s he was sent there with his 2 brothers after their father had been killed in a mining accident They all received a very good education whilst they were there I can remember boys from the school walking through the streets of Oldham in the traditional long bluecoats , stockings and patent buckle shoes Th school is now a very well regarded comprhensive school with very good GCSE & A level results Bren