Genealogy Chat

The Parish Church at Kingthopre is the church of St John the baptist -situated on a pretty green

I've just discovered that Elizabeth Wyatt (c1826) was nee Gardner and she married a Charles Wyatt in 1846 on the 21st of September at Kingsthorpe P.C. I assume this is a parish church?

I have a John longworth c1872 who is the son of Lorenzo. Could be him. I can see this lot costing me a fortune!

Ive lost it again - just found another John and his wife KATE!! View Record Barron, Kate 1894 September Marriages Northampton (1837-1924) Northamptonshire View Record Cox, Louisa 1894 September Marriages Northampton (1837-1924) Northamptonshire View Record Desborough, William Elmer 1894 September Marriages Wellingborough Bedfordshire Northamptonshire View Record Longworth, Charles 1894 September Marriages Northampton (1837-1924) Northamptonshire View Record Turner, Edward George 1894 September Marriages Northampton (1837-1924) Northamptonshire but cant find a Charles 1901 View Record John Longworth abt 1872 Northamptonshire, England Head St Sepulchre Northamptonshire View Record Kate Longworth abt 1877 Northamptonshire, England Wife St Sepulchre Northamptonshire living in what I assume is St Elizabeth St ( its says St Liz's St!)

I've just realised that Charles' father John could have been George and Martha's son! So different Charles but still family.

So they were the ones you found on 1861? I have Charles down as son of William and Elizabeth.

Charles born 1873 1881 Charles P. Longworth abt 1874 Northamptonshire, England Son 11 Thomas St., Northampton St Sepulchre, Northamptonshire, England John Longworth abt 1853 Northamptonshire, England Head 11 Thomas St., Northampton St Sepulchre, Northamptonshire, England Mary J. Longworth abt 1852 Northamptonshire, England Wife 11 Thomas St., Northampton St Sepulchre, Northamptonshire, England 1891 - pretty well sews up mothers maiden name! Longworth, Chas Poulsney abt 1874 Northamptonshire, England Son St Sepulchre Northamptonshire Longworth, John abt 1853 Northamptonshire, England Head St Sepulchre Northamptonshire Longworth, Mary Jane abt 1852 Northamptonshire, England Wife St Sepulchre Northamptonshire address 4 Robert St - house deffo still there! he married but not sure who yet..... View Record Barron, Kate 1894 September Marriages Northampton (1837-1924) Northamptonshire View Record Cox, Louisa 1894 September Marriages Northampton (1837-1924) Northamptonshire View Record Desborough, William Elmer 1894 September Marriages Wellingborough Bedfordshire Northamptonshire >>View Record Longworth, Charles 1894 September Marriages Northampton (1837-1924) Northamptonshire View Record Turner, Edward George 1894 September Marriages Northampton (1837-1924) Northamptonshire 1901

George Longworth born 1831 morphed in to born 1834 and married martha Allingham i think

We then have the one son Charles Longworth c1873. What happened to him in 1881/91/01? And George Longworth c1831, did he marry, have children, die a lonely old man? Should keep you going for half hour while I do washing up grrrr.....

I have plenty that lived in that area, then moved to Nottinghamshire, or came from out of town to Northamptonshire etc. I really must do the housework but this is far more fun. Ok let's go for George Wyatt c1857. Already know 1881 - living with Mum, let's see 1891 and 1901 to see who this Fanny was. Same goes for Charles Wyatt c1851. Also where can I find an old map that might show me some of these places?

DO you still want the Wyatt line following?- i dont mind!! Doing it - I really enjoy, makes me feel i can contribute something constructive (having a very poor self image) Doing someone that actually lived in the town that i live it, somehow brings it to life. I keep thinking ''Oh what a shame , thats been bulldozed'' etc etc and can imagine in my thought where they lived etc anymore, especially local to me, shout!! Jess xx

This is keeping you out of mischief isn't it.

I've managed to work most of it out now. William and Sarah - who married at All Saints, were John's parents. It's nice to see something of the past is still standing.Thankyou so much for all your help this morning. But don't worry I'll be back with another lot soon. I've just followed the Jabez Longworth line down. He married a Patience Melville, in 1870 and then died in 1877. It would appear they never had children and she was still a widow in 1891. So that's Jabez, Lorenzo, William covered. Now I remember vaguely finding that George Wyatt married a Fanny, but can't for the life of me remember where. Probably 1891 or 1901. I really hope hubby buys me a subscription to Ancestry soon so I don't have to keep bugging you.

Ok so have missed Jabez! #he married in 1871 View Record Longworth, Jabez 1870 June Marriages Northampton (1837-1924) Northamptonshire View Record Melville, Patience 1870 June Marriages Northampton (1837-1924) Northamptonshire 1871 his wife transcribed as Palmer!(reads as patience - !) Jabez Longworth abt 1839 St Sepulchres, Northamptonshire, England Head St Giles Northamptonshire Palmer Longworth abt 1836 Brampton, Cumberland, England Wife St Giles Northamptonshire address 30 Ridings- a hop away from the rest - slap in the middle of town (now the co-op car park!!) 1881- pending 1891 Patience is a widow and living at 9 Derngate- Name: Longworth, Patience Age: 54 Estimated birth year: abt 1837 Gender: Female Where Born: Stamford North Civil parish: St Giles Ecclesiastical parish: St Giles Town: Northampton County/Island: Northamptonshire

can you see any really obvious holes/gaps that want filling? If who ever it was was married at All Saints chuch, it is a beautiful old church , right- plonk- in the middle of town. was in there on Tuesday evening actually!

A very kind person has just looked up 1841 for me. William Longworth c1801 was married to Sarah c1806. They then had Harriett c1826, John c1826, George, c1831, Sarah c1833, Sophia c1836, Jabez c1838 and Lorenzo c1841. William was from out of town, possibly Lancashire. They also found me the reference to William and Sarah's marriage - her surname was Blackby and they married 21/10/1822 at All Saints Northampton. A really productive morning.

Right made sense of most of it. John must have left Eliza and went to live with his mother and brother, and took young William with him.Sound right? But when William and Elizabeth were visiting Elizabeth's mother they must have taken their first two daughters with them. Yes? Doesn't say daughters of whom. Now i just have to work out why John left, and with him staying with his brother it ties in the Lorenzo connection. If anyone can see any fatal flaws please tell me as this is one part I don't want to mess up.

Crikey Jess! All that while I dropped littl'un off at school. I do think that Elizabeth was nee Wyatt as after she married William they lived at the back of 12 Alma Street, with Betsy Wyatt (mother) lived with two of her sons at 12 Alma Street - from 1881 census. So that sorts that line out. Now this Lorenzo thing, the only way i can be sure is birth certs. John Longworth c1826 must have died or left Elizabeth before the 1871? as she was living with two of the daughters with no mention of him after that. (Just thinking out aloud, hoping I'm getting somewhere......) So I'll look for a death ref. Thankyou for this Jess, looked a rampant lot for sure.

Now lets really blow your mind!! Longworth marriages!! will sort brides/grooms later!! have to go out now View Record Longworth, Ada 1898 June Marriages Northampton (1837-1924) Northamptonshire View Record Longworth, Annie Louisa 1902 March Marriages Northampton (1837-1924) Northamptonshire View Record Longworth, Charles 1894 September Marriages Northampton (1837-1924) Northamptonshire View Record Longworth, Eliza 1897 June Marriages Northampton (1837-1924) Northamptonshire View Record Longworth, Elizabeth 1890 September Marriages Northampton (1837-1924) Northamptonshire View Record LONGWORTH, Ellen 1876 December Marriages Northampton (1837-1924) Northamptonshire View Record Longworth, Emily 1878 March Marriages Northampton (1837-1924) Northamptonshire View Record Longworth, George 1852 June Marriages Northampton (1837-1924) Northamptonshire Bride = Martha Allington View Record LONGWORTH, George W 1908 December Marriages Northampton (1837-1924) Northamptonshire View Record Longworth, Harriet 1902 June Marriages Northampton (1837-1924) Northamptonshire View Record Longworth, Harriett 1900 September Marriages Northampton (1837-1924) Northamptonshire View Record Longworth, Jabez 1870 June Marriages Northampton (1837-1924) Northamptonshire View Record LONGWORTH, John 1873 March Marriages Northampton (1837-1924) Northamptonshire Bridfe = Mary jane Poultney View Record LONGWORTH, John 1898 December Marriages Northampton (1837-1924) Northamptonshire View Record Longworth, Kate 1895 December Marriages Northampton (1837-1924) Northamptonshire View Record LONGWORTH, Lorenzo 1867 December Marriages Northampton (1837-1924) Northamptonshire BRIDE = Matilda Major View Record LONGWORTH, Major Lorenzo 1909 September Marriages Northampton (1837-1924) Northamptonshire ********************************************************************

also 1881 George martha is nee Allington Allington, Martha 1852 June Marriages Northampton (1837-1924) Northamptonshire Longworth, George 1852 June Marriages Northampton (1837-1924) Northamptonshire George Longworth abt 1834 Northamptonshire, England Head 38 St Lawrence St, Northampton St Sepulchre, Northamptonshire, England Harriett Longworth abt 1863 Northamptonshire, England Daughter 38 St Lawrence St, Northampton St Sepulchre, Northamptonshire, England Martha Longworth abt 1837 Towcester, Northamptonshire, England Wife 38 St Lawrence St, Northampton St Sepulchre, Northamptonshire, England