Genealogy Chat

Jane Well Morgan isn't too bad. I have Thomas and Williams and Evans and Jones! And then I have Evan Evans and and Thomas Thomas and Evan Thomas and Thomas Evans! You think YOUR brain has turned to mush!!!!!!!!! nell

nell my nicholas morgan adopted evan evans by 1871 census.before that we couldnt find him. elaine suggested nicholas evans bingo looks like we got him. nicholas father evan morgans but he could have called himself evan evans!!! sent off to glam records to see what they make of nicholas cos i have headache over him. i know exactly what you mean.

I thought you KNEW this bit: ''i was told ann was beynon before marriage'' (from page one of this thread) I spent about an hour and a half crossmatching marriages yesterday when there were no obvious matches....looking for mis-entered pages numbers, because I thought you had PROOF of their names!!!!! Suggest you wait on the cert for L L Thomas and then try again for the marriage.............. Merry

merry, did say yesterday that i was waiting on birth cert and that i would post details once i received it. ann beynon is name given by relative with ann's prayer book 1894 so i just assumed rees thomas was 1st and only husband.sorry for any inconvenience.

Yes, your quite right, you did say that!! Apologies....I think I didn''t see that message as I had already embarked on the marathon lookup before you posted it......... Well, at least it makes getting the birth cert more exciting.....I wonder what it will reveal?? More apologies.... Merry

Right area,right time View Record Davies, Mary Jane 1899 December Marriages Merthyr Tydfil Breconshire Glamorgan Mid Glamorgan View Record Dunning, Arthur 1899 December Marriages Merthyr Tydfil Breconshire Glamorgan Mid Glamorgan View Record Evans, Ann 1899 December Marriages Merthyr Tydfil Breconshire Glamorgan Mid Glamorgan View Record Thomas, Rees 1899 December Marriages Merthyr Tydfil Breconshire Glamorgan Mid

Does this sound like Lergen? 1881 census View Record Ann Evans abt 1874 Laugharne, Carmarthenshire, Wales Daughter West Mead Farm, Laugharne, Carmarthenshire, Wales View Record Margaret James abt 1863 Llansadurnon, Carmarthenshire, Wales Servant West Mead Farm, Laugharne, Carmarthenshire, Wales View Record Ann Llewelyn abt 1812 Llanfyhangel, Carmarthenshire, Wales Wife West Mead Farm, Laugharne, Carmarthenshire, Wales View Record Nathaniel Llewelyn abt 1834 Llangining, Carmarthenshire, Wales Head West Mead Farm, Laugharne, Carmarthenshire, Wales View Record John Thomas abt 1862 St Clears, Carmarthenshire, Wales Servant West Mead Farm, Laugharne, Carmarthenshire, Wales

merry, no worries, felt awful!! hopefully it will be here soon, xmas post and all that. jim, i did notice that one , its the only feasable one for rees but why would she be evans? i had this with my other side changing from one surname with an evans link. how confusing! the farming link is also good as i seem to remember someone saying there were farmers in family and not just the miners we knew about. thank you all so much, i feel like i need to check the whole of wales with this lot!!

p.s jim i did wonder if laugharne was login which is why i asked yesterday where login was. ho hum!

Login is an obscure tiny rural hamlet near the western boundary of Carmarthenshire, not close to Aberdare at all. So how come two women from Login are living in the same street in Aberdare? If they aren't related, it's quite a coincidence Esther's husband is Lewis Beynon, and there's a possible marriage in FreeBMD, Mar 1890, bride Esther Perkins. That date would mean that the kids listed may not be the kids of both parents, and the parents may have had previous marriages. One of the kids is a Jennie, though she's born around 1889 not 1899. If she's Esther's daughter that might mean she was born a Perkins The ages would fit for Esther to be Ann's mother and for Ann to have become a Beynon by taking her stepfather's name

Well done Robin! Using that info as a clue, I've found 1891: 40 High Street Cwmdare Lewis Beynon head mar 39 collier coalminer b glam Aberdare Esther Beynon wife 40 Carmarthen Login Thomas Beynon 13 son collier b Aberdare William Beynon 11 son scholar b Aberdare Jane Beynon 2 daur b Aberdare >>>>>>>Ann Evans servant domestic 14 b Login Quite likely to be Esther's daughter?! nell

Not getting anywhere with Ancestry, I thought Login can't be that big and went to look through the whole lot on familysearch - but of course it isn't listed! nell

Nice one Nell...(1891!) Merry

There are odd things afoot here. I can't find anyone living IN Login in 1881 or 1871 . BUT I have found several people (not surname Beynon or Evans or Perkins, who were born in Login, Carmarthenshire, but now live around Aberdare!) including in 1871 Margaret Couzens abt 1843 Login, Carmarthenshire, Wales Wife Aberdare Glamorgan I think there must have been a mass exodus! nell

It's not one of those ''flooded valleys'' or something?? (you know, with a church spire showing above the water.....) Merry

Here is Login in 1881 or maybe two? View Record David Jinkins abt 1879 Cilmaenllwyd, Carmarthenshire, Wales Grandson Login Village, Cilymaenllwyd, Carmarthenshire, Wales View Record Esther Jinkins abt 1856 Cilmaenllwyd, Carmarthenshire, Wales Granddaughter Login Village, Cilymaenllwyd, Carmarthenshire, Wales View Record Anne Phillips abt 1797 Llanfyrnach, Pembrokeshire, Wales Head Login Village, Cilymaenllwyd, Carmarthenshire, Wales zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz View Record Milian Evans abt 1816 Llanllawddog Wife Login, Abergwilly, Carmarthenshire, Wales View Record Samuel Evans abt 1855 Abergwili, Carmarthenshire, Wales Son Login, Abergwilly, Carmarthenshire, Wales View Record Thomas Evans abt 1845 Abergwili, Carmarthenshire, Wales Son Login, Abergwilly, Carmarthenshire, Wales View Record William Evans abt 1816 Llangeler, Carmarthenshire, Wales Head Login, Abergwilly, Carmarthenshire, Wales View Record William Jones abt 1860 Abergwili, Carmarthenshire, Wales Servant Login, Abergwilly, Carmarthenshire, Wales View Record Ellen Williams abt 1854 Abergwili, Carmarthenshire, Wales Servant Login, Abergwilly, Carmarthenshire, Wales

apparently Login was in Cilymaenllwyd parish. Looking through the parish in 1881, RG11/5402 starting folio 52, it's like every house has a name and the addresses given are just the house names, which explains why Login doesn't appear in many addresses. On folio 56 page 10 there's an Esther Perkins age 30 unmarried with a daughter Anne age 4. Anne's birthplace is Cilymaenllwyd, which fits, but Esther's is given as Llanboidy. There's also a 'servant' called Jane Perkins, 18 -- possibly who Ann's half-sister was named after So maybe Evans was Ann's father's name and her parents never did marry just seen your latest Jim, hope there weren't too different Logins, that's all we need

same Esther in 1871 Anne Perkins abt 1807 Cilymaenllwyd, Carmarthenshire, Wales Head Widow Cilymaenllwyd Carmarthenshire Esther Perkins abt 1846 Llanboidy, Carmarthenshire, Wales Daughter Unmarried Cilymaenllwyd Carmarthenshire Jane Perkins abt 1864 Llanboidy, Carmarthenshire, Wales Granddaughter Cilymaenllwyd Carmarthenshire So this Esther was one of those lucky ladies who ages a lot slower than the calendar. But did she have 2 daughters called Jane, 25 years apart, or is the older one a niece?

oh my god!! you lot are amazing. i've just come in from work and......wow!how do you all get to be sooooo good at this?i am so excited i'm sitting here laughing, much to my boys' disgust.have i got an intriguing family or what! i am absolutely gobsmacked with what you all have found and am so glad i asked.

It seems Login was treated as part of Llanboidy but I can't find Cilymaenllwyd on the map. I think until you get that cert we are all going to be possibly barking up wrong trees! We don't KNOW that your Ann had a mother called Esther yet!