Genealogy Chat

Kathlyn Re storing info If I was starting again I would do this - go to www.familysearch.org and choose download software. You can get a free program called Personal Ancestral File (paf). This can store lots of information, has spaces for notes, can show links between families, pedigree charts etc etc. It has the ability to add photos too. I started by having files, which got more numerous and larger as I accumulated information. I am now choosing to store everything on my paf first (I have a 2nd paf for husband's tree). If you want to buy a more sophisticated software program later you can transfer your paf info easily by using GEDCOM (a system that allows genealogy info to be imported/exported). You can download your GR tree into paf files too, which is what I did and I am a complete technophobe. Do remember to back up files regularly onto disc/CD and store this away from your computer. nell

On John and Kate Maudsley`s marriage certificate the following info appears:- Fathers name:- George Massie, this is then crossed out and John Maudsley inserted, as John Massie was his step father. But George Massie`s occupation, a baker, is left in the profession column. Hope this is clear !!!!!! Kathlyn

Thanks to all you good people out there for your help. Jim in Soton, yes all those are the children of John and Kate according to the family list I do have. I have so much to learn about where to go to obtain info and the help i am getting from members is very much appreciated. Any tips you may have about storing the mass of info i am now getting would be gratefully received. Kathlyn

Between Liverpool & Wigan area.... Genuki reckons near Prescot, registrations would be St Helens. (updated) for 1875 would be Prescot reg district There is also a Parr near Tyldesley (the first one I was thinking of)

Maybe it was from the birth cert that your friend/rellie found? That would be this guy in 1881: Elisabeth Mawdsley abt 1866 Parr, Lancashire, England Daughter 183 Park Road, Parr, Lancashire, England Henry Mawdsley abt 1873 Parr, Lancashire, England Son 183 Park Road, Parr, Lancashire, England Jane Mawdsley abt 1868 Parr, Lancashire, England Daughter 183 Park Road, Parr, Lancashire, England >>>>John Mawdsley abt 1875 Parr, Lancashire, England Son 183 Park Road, Parr, Lancashire, England Mary Mawdsley abt 1879 Wigan, Lancashire, England Daughter 183 Park Road, Parr, Lancashire, England Ruth Mawdsley abt 1841 Wigan, Lancashire, England Wife 183 Park Road, Parr, Lancashire, England Ruth Mawdsley abt 1877 Parr, Lancashire, England Daughter 183 Park Road, Parr, Lancashire, England Thomas Mawdsley abt 1872 Parr, Lancashire, England Son 183 Park Road, Parr, Lancashire, England William Mawdsley abt 1838 Staffordshire, England Head 183 Park Road, Parr, Lancashire, England So we need to track him forwards....... Hmmmmm.......I don't know Lancs....anyone know where Parr is near?? Merry

Kathlyn, What is your evidence for your John Maudsley being born in Parr, Lancs?? (given in 1901 the place of birth is recorded the same as his wife.....) Merry

I know some Mawdesley people from the midlands

oops Jim, I forgot to try the extra ''E''!! Merrry

there are these ones on ancestry Maudesley, John George 1899 December Births West Ham Essex Greater London View Record MAUDESLEY, John 1907 December Births West Ham Essex Greater London View Record Maudesley, John George J 1900 September Deaths West Ham Essex Greater London age 0

Kathlyn SUCCESS! You posted a reply!!!!! Hope your head isn't aching so much now. nell

How certain are you about the son John born 1901ish?? These are the John Maudsl* born 1900-1902 inc: Maudsley, John 1900 December Births Salford Greater Manchester Lancashire Maudsley, John 1902 September Births Blackburn Lancashire Maudsley, John Eric 1900 September Births Toxteth Park Lancashire As you see, there are none in West Ham or anywhere Londonish.... Merry

What was the name of the step-father on the marriage cert? Merry

1901 22 Bradfield road Head ships Fireman? John Mauderley abt 1873 West Ham; Plaistow Head West Ham Essex View Record Kate Mauderley abt 1881 West Ham; Plaistow Wife West Ham Essex it very clearly says Maudesley

Many thanks to Merry and Nell for getting me to this stage. I am unable to find grandparents in the 1901 census. I have tried various spellings of the name but still no luck. Anyone who could help would be a star in my book. There details are as follows... John Maudsley born in Parr, Lancashire in 1874 and Kate Clara his wife, born in Canning Town, in 1880. They were living in West Ham, Essex at the time of the census possibly at 25 Sutton Road. They may have had one child who was born in 1901, but the birth may have been after the census. The childs name was also John. Any pointers would be very much appreciated. and I hope I have got these instructions right, crossed fingers. kathyn

Nell, I sent her step-by-step instructions, after she asked me, a few mins ago...... Waiting patiently now......................................... .................................................. ................................................. Merry

Merry I've had a similar message from Kathlyn. I advised her to post details of names, rough ages - she also said she knew where the people should be in 1901 so I suggested she give us an address. I wonder if she knows how to add to a thread? nell

The LDS Familysearch site and Freebmd both have a soundex function (automatically on in LDS) and they will provide a range of alternative spellings if you enter the name and search.

I have had a second reply from Kathlyn I have asked her again to post on the thread and to give us some dates and places: ''Granddads marriage certificate has his step fathers name on it . The birth cert i have was 'found' by a 'genealogist' friend of a cousin of mine, and as neither of us knew our great grandparents christian names, I are not too sure if this cert is 100%.'' Merry

Kathlyn sent me this message, but I can't do anything with it because there are no dates or places mentioned.......I am sending her a PM to ask her to give some more data, if she can, and also to reply direct to the thread...... ''Hi there, Thank you for your reply. I have made great inroads to my paternal grandmothers family, but when i get to granddad, the story becomes very frustrating. I have copies of granddads marriage and death certificates but obtaining his birth certificate is the one causing me a headache. A friend of a cousin is into genealogy and with info given to him he obtained a birth cert. The place of birth and the date are spot on, but when I try to go further I find that there are many John Maudsley`s in the right area, and some within the date range. I do not know my great grandparents names or occupations, and the frustrating thing is I have a beautiful photo of g.grandma Maudsley with her 2nd husband. If only she could talk to me!!!!! We were always led to believe that granddad had one sister, called Mary Ellen, but on following the birth certificate trail I find several siblings, with a sister called Ellen. Oh if only I had asked questions when they were alive. Any paths you could direct me to would be very much appreciated. Kathlyn '' Merry

Its funny talking about name changing Kathlyn, i was looking up my surname of Foy and found a story of a girl surnamed Foiw she was so named because her great grandfather and his family emigrated to USA in the 1800s and just after arriving he fell into the river and drowned, unfortunately he had all the official documents on him and the wife couldn't read or write so she identified his body and spelt his name the way she thought ....FOIW and it has stuck ever since... mad isn't it...MOE!