Genealogy Chat

hi to you all im wondering why ever started to do this as i think im on the verge of going insane...im tracing the keough/kough side of my family and i have got the free trial ansetry uk which i thought would help me a great deal i have got james kough and catharine kough back to 1861 living in walsall staffs with father in law martin griffin but i cant find a marraige for them any where?? can some one help me please ive been donig this for 12 mths now and still dont think i know what im doing...will i ever get the hang of it?? kelly(going slightley mad)

have you got the reference or details for 1861 census - cannot find a James Kough in Walsall

have found 1861 census - for reference James Griffin abt 1860 Walsall, Staffordshire, England Son Walsall Foreign Staffordshire Martin Griffin abt 1829 Clare Morris, Ireland Head Walsall Foreign Staffordshire Martin Griffin abt 1852 Walsall, Staffordshire, England Son Walsall Foreign Staffordshire Mary Griffin abt 1821 Clare Morris, Ireland Wife Walsall Foreign Staffordshire Edward Jennings abt 1847 Walsall, Staffordshire, England Son-in-law Walsall Foreign Staffordshire John Jennings abt 1849 Walsall, Staffordshire, England Son-in-law Walsall Foreign Staffordshire Catherine Keogh abt 1841 Ireland Wife Walsall Foreign Staffordshire James Keogh abt 1831 Ireland Son-in-law Walsall Foreign Staffordshire Mary Ann Keogh abt 1860 Walsall, Ireland Daughter Walsall Foreign Staffordshire Caroline Lees abt 1832 Walsall, Staffordshire, England Wife Walsall Foreign Staffordshire James Lees abt 1829 Walsall, Staffordshire, England Head Walsall Foreign Staffordshire

sorry no i dont ..but have just looked at the way i wrote and its spelt keogh in 1861..

thats them does this sound really dumb i presumed that it would mean catherine would have been catherine griffin prior to marring james keogh but i cant find a marriage for them any were... have i no idea what im doing ..or ..are they just hiding from me

I presume they married in Ireland? Suzanne

could they have been married in Ireland ??

never thought of that ....BUT just realised i have cath with her parents on 1851 cen and there is no james keough

wonder if this is the same Griffin family in 1851 - dates of birth different for Martin (head) and Mary (wife) Cathe Griffin abt 1849 Ireland Daughter Walsall Foreign Staffordshire Edward Griffin abt 1846 Ireland Son Walsall Foreign Staffordshire John Griffin abt 1848 Ireland Son Walsall Foreign Staffordshire Martin Griffin abt 1816 Ireland Head Walsall Foreign Staffordshire occupation iron stone miner Mary Griffin abt 1818 Ireland Wife Walsall Foreign Staffordshire Michael Griffin abt 1839 Ireland Son Walsall Foreign Staffordshire Patk Griffin abt 1824 Ireland Lodger Walsall Foreign Staffordshire Mary Kelley abt 1823 Ireland Lodger Walsall Foreign Staffordshire Michael Kelley abt 1820 Ireland Lodger Walsall Foreign Staffordshire

that is the same ones i have i would say it is...but then that means james and cath must have married here doesnt it

i know that im with the right family as cath in 1901 is with her children ..no husband there but there is a john jennings down as uncle if you look he is there in 1861 as well i think im just going crazy....what a hobbie haha

anyone with new ideas on this ????????

I would try to eliminate an Irish marriage - have no idea how and where but am sure other people with Irish ancestors will help

thanks very much for your time and help...

open to any ideas.........

Hello Kelly, I've found the rootschat.com site very helpful for some parts of Ireland. Some counties have 1901 census transcribed or people researching the same surnames. Click on Ireland then go to the county where you think they were have a search under the county for resources available. Good luck. Ireland is certainly a challenge to research. Jenny

thanks for that i will give it a try ..anything is worth a go ... kelly