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Have this family in my husband's tree living in London in 1851 and 1871, daughter born 1866 but cannot find the family anywhere in 1861!

1851 7 New Court Whitecross Street St Luke's. William Robins abt 1825 Cripplegate Head mar 26 paper stainer Caroline Robins abt 1831 St Luke Wife mar 20 William Robins abt 1847 St Luke Son 4 Charles Robins abt 1850 St Luke Son 8 months 1866 William and Caroline's daughter Caroline Sarah Robins is born at 26 Playhouse Yard, Golden Lane, Whitecross Street. 1871 [William senior is in Parkhurst Prison, Isle of Wight!] rest of family 26 Playhouse Yard Court, Golden Lane, St Lukes Caroline Robins abt 1831 London City Head married 40 general dealer William Robins abt 1851 St Luke, Son 20 painter's labourer Caroline Robins abt 1866 St Luke, Daughter 5 scholar Playhouse Yard has some house numbers on one enumeration district and other numbers on another district on 1861. BUT I can't find any numbers after no. 20. I cannot find William or Caroline together or separately, or any of the children anywhere in Britain. So please send me your sympathy! nell

PS I've tried looking on Ancestry AND 1837online.

I'm so sorry they're giving you a hard time Nell!!! I notice it's your husbands side again! Hope he's better than his Ancesters. Fiona.

Hi Nell, you have my sympathy,i have one rellie who is missing from 1871,81 and 91-cannot find the man anywhere Karen

Nell - have you tried scotland??? give me a couple of minutes and I will have a quick look for you

Hi Nell, I also have a family on 61, 81, 91, & 1901 but do you think I can find them on 1871, no way. So frustrating. Marie

Nell, Were they all born in London. Marie

You have my sympathy, I have some missing from the 1861 who I think will never be found as I suspect they are in one of the 'missing' areas. But some rellies I thought I would never find on the 1881 turned up after months of searching, so maybe yours will turn up in the end! Kate.

there are a couple of possibilities in Scotland - but I have broken the site just now - will get back to you as soon as possible

Do you think this might be part of the family? Source information: RG10/405 Registration district: Holborn Sub-registration district: Whitecross Street ED, institution, or vessel: 6 Folio: 59 Page: 34 Household schedule number: 202 GSU Number: 824626 26 Playhouse Yard Court Caroline Robins abt 1831 London City Head, general dealer William Robins abt 1851 St Luke, Middlesex, England Son, painters labourer Caroline Robins abt 1866 St Luke, Middlesex, England Daughter, scholar Christine

Sorry - addle-brained. You're looking for 1861 Christine

You certainly have my sympathy! I have had some help and have found a plausible, but mis-aged, Hannah BENNETT 1871, but I have several others in different censuses who just won't come out of the woodwork! Christine

How frustrating for you. I hope they turn up - I've just had a look with name variants - no luck, sorry. I don't doubt your capabilities, I just had a spare 10 minutes.. Good luck Sarah

Could this be a possible: Emma Chapman abt 1844 Southwark, Surrey, England Sister Southwark St John Surrey Samuel D Dainton abt 1809 Falmouth, Cornwall, England Head Southwark St John Surrey John Reed abt 1836 Bermondsey, Surrey, England Lodger Southwark St John Surrey Caroline Robbins abt 1829 Southwark, Surrey, England Wife Southwark St John Surrey Harriet Robbins abt 1852 Southwark, Surrey, England Daughter Southwark St John Surrey William Robbins abt 1822 Southwark, Surrey, England Lodger Southwark St John Surrey William Robbins abt 1859 Southwark, Surrey, England Son Southwark St Address is 13 Freemans Lane, Southwark. Ages are not far away, and the wife has a different name to the head.....my eyes can't decipher the occupations, whole thing is not easy for me to read. Ian

I know it's not conclusive evidence but my main family line are all missing from that area in 1861 because the pages were destroyed. Not right next door or anything - they were Wilton Square which is the top end of Eagle Wharf Road in Hoxton - so a fair chance on the same enumerators route or stored in the same book as Whitecross Street. Doesn't help that they're missing but it reassured me that I was going loopy when I couldn't find them. Zoe

Everyone Thanks for your time and trouble. Ian This Southwark lot aren't mine :-( as I've found them on other censuses, but thank you anyway. Zoe It's a puzzle as much of the road is on two adjoining districts, but numbers after 20 don't appear to exist and I can't find them on the existing ones. By coincidence when I read your posting about Eagle Wharf Road I thought sounds familiar. My husband's lot lived at some point in Mintern Street nearby and my grandfather lodged in Forston Street, off Eagle Wharf Road, in 1901. Although my husband and I met in West London, our London relatives seem to have been within streets of eachother at various times and places. nell