Genealogy Chat

Over the past 2/3 days i have searched both England and Wales 1861 census for my grt grandmother. I have just put her first name in birth year and place of birth and nothing, don't know what to do now. Can anyone help. Gill

Wish I could help you but I have the same problem with my g/grandfather, I have been looking for 4 years now Margaret

Lol Margaret i feel much better now. Gill

I don't know but MAYBE you are being too precise?? Put some details up on here and we will have a look. Dea x

Unfortunately some people just chose to be 'missing' on census nights - similarly I have found that one part of my family appear twice in the census - at two separate addresses (once as visitors and once at their own abode!) Sorry not to be any help - I have come up against the same problem with other members of my own family.

Don't give up....ever. Many of us here know exactly how you feel - the frustration of having a genealogical brick wall is enough for many of us to tear our hair out! For so many years, my grandma was 'missing' from any documentation I could find. Then, I found out that her name wasn't what she had told me when I was a young girl. Even after discovering this amazingly useful information, her birth certificate (and so her mothers name) eluded me competely.... until this week! I found grandma on ancestry, found her mothers maiden name - and have 'met' an amazing man on here who has shared extensively his information and tales of my long-lost family. I still haven't 100% proof on her fathers family.... but it will come eventually. I still have other blocks - have had them for five years and more.... but I shant give up hoping I'll crumble those walls....brick by frustrating brick! I just flit for a while to another part of the tree, put some flesh on the bare bones to make a name a person.... and then go back to my brick wall another time. Here's hoping you'll hear the sound of bricks falling soon! All the best, Sheleen.

Thank's Dea, Kerry Ruth Richardson b 1854 Ellsmere Port Cheshire. Sarah Richardson abt 1823 mother,Montgom Wales John Richardson abt 1811 father Whitby Cheshire may have found a death for John 1855 havn't got cert yet. could be a son John b 1850 Thank's Gill

thank's Sheleen have left one brick wall, to come to this one. lol Gill

I assume that it's the same as this 1851 family, living in Whitby, Cheshire: John Richardson abt 1811 Whitby, Cheshire, England Head Sarah Richardson abt 1823 Clanfaier Fedco, Montgomeryshire, Wales Wife Elizabeth Richardson abt 1843 Thornton, Cheshire, England Daughter Sarah Richardson abt 1846 Ellesmere Port, Cheshire, England Daughter John Richardson abt 1850 Ellesmere Port, Cheshire, England Son Christine

Sorry, Have only found what Christine has already found. Dea x

Gill I know the feeling, my husband's family are gone in 1861, although his gt gt grandmother is born 1866 at the same address as they are in in 1871. They were in the same area 1851 but have scarpered in 1861! nell

Thank's Christine and Dea, i have 1851 also Ruth on 1871, they must have been abducted by alians 1861.Gill

Nell, i wonder if Mars has released there 1861 yet. Gill

Had a look on Cheshire BMD (http://www.cheshirebmd.org.uk). I don't know whether you've got these, but some, at least, might contribute to the picture (Ellesmere Port would be associated with Eastham District for registration)... Surname / Forename(s) / Sub-District / Registers At / Reference Cheshire Birth indexes for the years: 1840 to 1845 **RICHARDSON Elizabeth Eastham Cheshire West EAS/2/71 Cheshire Birth indexes for the years: 1846 to 1850 **RICHARDSON John Reece Eastham Cheshire West EAS/5/99 **RICHARDSON Sarah Eastham Cheshire West EAS/4/13 Cheshire Birth indexes for the years: 1852 RICHARDSON Robert Thomas Eastham Cheshire West EAS/6/96 Cheshire Birth indexes for the years: 1853 RICHARDSON Mary Jane Eastham Cheshire West EAS/7/64 Cheshire Birth indexes for the years: 1854 RICHARDSON Mary Jane Eastham Cheshire West EAS/8/23 **RICHARDSON Ruth Eastham Cheshire West EAS/7/100 Cheshire Birth indexes for the years: 1858 RICHARDSON John Eastham Cheshire West EAS/10/3 Cheshire Birth indexes for the years: 1860 RICHARDSON Mary Ann Eastham Cheshire West EAS/11/51 Cheshire Birth indexes for the years: 1862 RICHARDSON Mabel Ella Eastham Cheshire West EAS/13/36 Cheshire Birth indexes for the years: 1863 RICHARDSON Francis Eastham Cheshire West EAS/14/55 RICHARDSON Joseph Eastham Cheshire West EAS/14/11 RICHARDSON Mary Eastham Cheshire West EAS/14/63 Cheshire Birth indexes for the years: 1865 RICHARDSON Arthur Eastham Cheshire West EAS/15/61 [see Deaths, below] Cheshire Birth indexes for the years: 1867 RICHARDSON Kathleen Eastham Cheshire West EAS/17/15 Cheshire Birth indexes for the years: 1869 RICHARDSON Nora Mervyn Eastham Cheshire West EAS/18/57 Christine

And these... Surname / Forename(s) / Age / Sub-District / Registers At / Reference Cheshire Death indexes for the years: 1855 RICHARDSON John 48 Eastham Cheshire West EAS/5/28 Cheshire Death indexes for the years: 1858 RICHARDSON Ann 77 Eastham Cheshire West EAS/6/31 Cheshire Death indexes for the years: 1862 RICHARDSON Thomas 40 Eastham Cheshire West EAS/8/26 Cheshire Death indexes for the years: 1865 RICHARDSON Arthur 0 Eastham Cheshire West EAS/9/58 [see Births above] RICHARDSON Jane 55 Eastham Cheshire West EAS/9/48 RICHARDSON Thomas 80 Eastham Cheshire West EAS/9/56 Cheshire Death indexes for the years: 1869 RICHARDSON Charles Mervyn 34 Eastham Cheshire West EAS/10/93 Those names may supply some alternative parents for the extras on the Births list. Christine

And this is a possible if they weren't married in her home territory... Surname / Forename(s) / Surname / Forename(s) / Church / Register Office / Registers At / Reference Cheshire Marriage indexes for the years: 1842 RICHARDSON / John / WILLIAMS / Sarah / Chester, St Mary / Cheshire West / CE14/1/416 Christine

Thank you Christine, i have Ruths b. cert but the Elizabeth ,John and Sarah could well be her sibblings. Wil try and find parents on the 1871. Gill

Thank's again Christine have sent for the marridge 1842. was going to send for the death cert you found but reached my limit for this month, will have to wait a couple of weeks.I wondered if that was fathers death if mother (Sarah) had remarried by 1861 and they all would be going by another name and that's why they can't be found. Gill

Yes - she'd need some financial support with a young family to look after. By 1871, young Ruth was: Ruth Richardson abt 1855 Ellesmere Port, Cheshire, England Servant Whitmore Staffordshire the Head was Frederick W Simpson abt 1829 Newcastle, Staffordshire, England Head Whitmore Staffordshire Christine

cany even finf the rest of the family in 1871- maybe her brother John , helpfully seemingly on a boat, address just Turnstall bridge Name: John Richardson Age: 20 Estimated birth year: abt 1851 Household: View other family members Gender: Male Where born: Ellesmere, Cheshire, England Civil Parish or Township: Tunstall Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch Town: Tunstall County/Island: Staffordshire Country: England Source information: RG10/2848 Registration district: Wolstanton Sub-registration district: Tunstall ED, institution, or vessel: 18 Folio: 28 Page: 49 Occupation - Boatman!!