Genealogy Chat

Flippin' labourers!!! Ciuldn't you have one with a specific job?? Carpenter, or Hat maker or something!!!!!! LOL Will call back later to see if you have surfaced from your notes! Have you got their address in 1904? Merry

Tell me about it! Everyone was a labourer of some sort in my family - nothing exciting anywhere! LOL They were living at 4 Brighton Road, Reading in 1904. Am going straight home to look through all my notes - I am really annoyed now - I have gone a few generations back on the MILES line - I have got the information from somewhere. But where?!?!? (Head in hand sobbing now!!) :-)

Oh, don't sob.....here, have a cyber tissue! I'm sure everything will fall into place when you get to your notes! Merry

Cyber tissue received with thanks LOL I am sure it will, but is frustrating waiting! :-) Need to track down his birth somehow too to get that certificate - will hopefully help with the mystery.

Two things: 1) If we can't find Alfred and Mary in 1901, then we are stuck, as without knowing where he was born, he could be one of many Alfred John Cox' born about 1876, none of whom were born in Berkshire. 2) I've just looked to see who was living at 4 Brighton St in 1901. It was Oswald Athelstan, and army pensioner aged just 39, and his wife and young daughter. So, on the surface at least, nothing to do with your family :o(( Merry

and 3) Who were their marriage witnesses? Merry

I know I gave you Queenie's birth already (that's the only one I've given you so far that is almost definitely belonging to the right couple, as mother's name only started on the index in Q3 1911)..... Here are some more!! No Surname Forename (s) Mothers maiden name District Page No Event Quarter Year 1 Cox Hilda L Miles Guildford.2a 143 Birth 4 1919 2 Cox Miles R Miles Reading.2c 657 Birth 1 1916 3 Cox Phyllis Miles Reading.2c 701 Birth 3 1913 Merry

Bloody Hell, I think I may have found them.......(sorry to swear!) I was thinking it seemed strange that none of the names you had given for the Cox/Miles children had come along before 1901, yet they were young and had been married a few years by then..... Now, remember Dolly?? I found a birth as Dorothy . As I said before, it might be wrong as there was no mother's maiden name in the index to help at that date. So, you mentioned they married in Hungerford District, but all the births I had looked at were in Reading - where we know they were by 1904, but we don't know they were there before that?? So, I looked at Cox births in Hungerford, 1896 onward. Not so many as in Reading district. This one stood out: Births Jun 1898 Cox Victoria Dorothy Hungerford 2c 269 Thought I should look for her on the census....... Now, for a moment, I thought they were the wrong family.....both parents apparently have the wrong first names, but....look at the inlaws in the house!! 1901 Albert J Cox abt 1876 Hoe Benham, Berkshire, England Head St Giles Berkshire Gertrude M Cox abt 1880 Hungerford, Berkshire, England Wife St Giles Berkshire Mary Ann Cox abt 1897 Hungerford, Berkshire, England Daughter St Giles Berkshire Victoria D Cox abt 1899 Hungerford, Berkshire, England Daughter St Giles Berkshire Mary Jane Hatchell abt 1873 Hoe Benham, Berkshire, England Visitor St Giles Berkshire Arthur Miles abt 1878 Hungerford, Berkshire, England Brother-in-law St Giles Berkshire George Miles abt 1881 Hungerford, Berkshire, England Brother-in-law St Giles Berkshire Lizzie Miles abt 1886 Hungerford, Berkshire, England Sister-in-law St Giles Berkshire What are they doing being Albert (acceptable mistake I suppose?) and GERTRUDE!!! LOL Going for a lie down...... Merry

and those bros and sisters in 1891 (which maybe you have already?) with parents William and Harriet, as you said: 1891 Alfred Miles abt 1886 Hungerford, Berkshire, England Son Hungerford Berkshire Alfred George Miles abt 1878 Hungerford, Berkshire, England Son Hungerford Berkshire Arthur Miles abt 1876 Hungerford, Berkshire, England Son Hungerford Berkshire Bertie Miles abt 1889 Hungerford, Berkshire, England Son Hungerford Berkshire Elisabeth Miles abt 1883 Hungerford, Berkshire, England Daughter Hungerford Berkshire George Mary Miles abt 1877 Hungerford, Berkshire, England Daughter Hungerford Berkshire Harriett Miles abt 1844 Tilshead, Wiltshire, England Wife Hungerford Berkshire Isabella Miles abt 1881 Hungerford, Berkshire, England Daughter Hungerford Berkshire William Miles abt 1851 Samhorne, Berkshire, England Head Hungerford Berkshire William Miles abt 1891 Hungerford, Berkshire, England Son Hungerford Berkshire Merry

I think you're right, Merry :) They're down as Mills in 1881. She is Gertrude Mary or Mary Gertrude I think.

Alfred/Albert in 1891: Alfred Cox abt 1875 Hoe Benham, Berkshire, England Son Welford Berkshire Edith Cox abt 1883 Hoe Benham, Berkshire, England Granddaughter Welford Berkshire Elisa Cox abt 1837 Hoe Benham, Berkshire, England Head Welford Berkshire Elizebeth Cox abt 1886 Hoe Benham, Berkshire, England Granddaughter Welford Berkshire Frederick Cox abt 1870 Hoe Benham, Berkshire, England Son Welford Berkshire George Cox abt 1864 Halfway, Berkshire, England Son Welford Berkshire Rose Cox abt 1888 Hoe Benham, Berkshire, England Granddaughter Welford Berkshire Merry

1881: Eliza COX Head M Female 45 Welford, Berkshire, England Charwoman Dorcas COX Daur U Female 20 Welford, Berkshire, England George COX Son U Male 18 Welford, Berkshire, England Ag Lab Jane COX Daur U Female 15 Welford, Berkshire, England Ann COX Daur Female 12 Welford, Berkshire, England Scholar Frederic COX Son Male 8 Welford, Berkshire, England Scholar Alfred COX Son Male 6 Welford, Berkshire, England Scholar Merry

I'm not having any luck finding Eliza Cox (widow in 1881 above) in 1871, when (by rights) her husband should be alive! Merry

HOORAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I knew if I said they couldn't be found, I would find them!! LOL Eliza's hubby IS Richard!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 1871: Dorcas Cocks abt abt 1861 Welford, Berkshire, England Daughter Berkshire Eliza Cocks abt abt 1839 Welford, Berkshire, England Wife Berkshire George Cocks abt abt 1863 Welford, Berkshire, England Son Berkshire Henry Cocks abt abt 1856 Welford, Berkshire, England Son Berkshire James Cocks abt abt 1866 Welford, Berkshire, England Son Berkshire Mary J Cocks abt abt 1868 Welford, Berkshire, England Daughter Berkshire Richard Cocks abt abt 1824 Shefford, Berkshire, England Head Berkshire Sarah A Cocks abt abt 1870 Welford, Berkshire, England Daughter Berkshire Thomas Cocks abt abt 1859 Welford, Berkshire, England Son Berkshire Merry

What have they done to 1871??? It looks wierd :(

1861: Dorcas Cox abt 1860 Welford, Berkshire, England Daughter Welford Berkshire Eliza Cox abt 1836 Welford, Berkshire, England Wife Welford Berkshire Henry Cox abt 1856 Welford, Berkshire, England Son Welford Berkshire Richard Cox abt 1823 Shefford, Berkshire, England Head Welford Berkshire Thomas Cox abt 1858 Welford, Berkshire, England Son Welford Berkshire Merry

Hi Orangeblossom......I don't know....I remember seeing this for Berkshire before, and I suppose it was on 1871 then too....ages ago. But the searching is wierd??? Merry

WOW!!!! I have just come in from work, and was about to tel you that she was listed as MILLS, not MILES on 1881, and see that I need to study this and catch up. Witnesses at their wedding were: Charles Munday and Caroline Whiting. Married 2nd October 1897 Parish Church, Hungerford. Alfred listed as living at Salisbury Row (?), Hungerford, and Mary Switham (?) Breach, Hungerford. - Sorry the handwriting is a little dubious. Both fathers were Farm Labourers. Found Daisys birth cert out too - born 29th May 1904 at 4 Brighton Road. Parents Alfred John Cox and Mary Ann, formerly Miles. Alfred is A Tractor Engine Driver by this time.

I am not too sure about the COX / COCKS families - on other marriage certificates that I have, if the father is deceased, they are listed as such on the cert. Not ruling it out though. Need all the help and options I can get!

if they married in Church there's a great likelyhood the vicar didn't ask!! I have about 10 certs where father was dead but not mentioned as such and three where he was listed as dead but wasn't!! Merry