Genealogy Chat

these are the only ones coming up on ancestry transcriptions: GILL, Edward Caesar 1876 September Marriages West Derby Lancashire Gill, Edward Cæsar 1878 December Births Birkenhead Cheshire Merseyside Gill, Julius Caesar 1905 December Births Birmingham (1837-1924) Warwickshire

altough it appears to be a very popular forename on the Isle of Man: 1881 Isle of Man Census 69 1891 Isle of Man Census 41 1901 Isle of Man Census 32 1861 Isle of Man Census 31 1871 Isle of Man Census 29

Awww no fair. I thought we might have found a way of linking the two then. *Goes away and sulks*

Can anyone tell who Edward Caesar Gill from West Derby married in 1976. Why does ancestry sometimes show 'Find spouse' option and other times doesn't?

Harriet Ann Allen or Mary WYlie

Well I've just done a search on 1901census and there are plenty of Mary Kewley's but no Harriet Kewleys. Doing some more combination searches shows that unless a death occured before 1901 then it looks like Harriet Ann Allen married Edward Caesar Gill. My last session ran out the other day and I don't have that many searches to do to warrent opening another one just yet. Do you all think the same as me or am I missing something and just taking things for granted?

Have you seen http://www.isle-of-man(.)com/manxnotebook/fulltext/tg1863/pl.htm AND http://www.isle-of-man(.)com/manxnotebook/fulltext/bd1894/peel.htm

I googled Gill geneology and came up with several sites. It says Gill is derived from french for William so know idea if the families are connected. I could not find any links to Isle of man but it might be worth visiting and posting a querry.

Zoe in London: I have received the marriage certificate from the John Thomas Gill and Annie Hart that you found for me. I've tried to have a search through ancestry but hitting that brickwall again. Any chance you can take a look if I give the details from the cert.? When married: 27/02/1916 John Thomas Gill - 21 years old - Carter - 59 Pugin Street - (Father) John Thomas Gill also a Carter Annie Hart - 20 years old - - 59 Pugin Street - (Father) William Hart (deceased) - Dock Labourer They were married in the Parish of St Mary Kirkdale in the county of Lancaster Any more help would be appreciated, Ian

Not trying to be rude but want to bump this till one of the helpful people from before can help again. Sorry for the bump. I am sorry. Terribly sorry in fact. Sorry. Ian P.S. Sorry

Stop it Ian!! School run now, and I'd have to read it all again, so if no one beats me to it (come on someone!)....I'll be back in about 6 hours! Merry

I'm at work at the moment so i'll check in when I get home to see if there's any progress or anything further needed Z

What a FAB lot you are taking up the challenge the way you have. Rodney

Thanks everyone I knew I could count on you all. I'd have popped on earlier and said thanks but I had the dreaded chores to do. She's at weightwatchers now so I have a few minutes to log in. I've had no luck at all searching so you've helped a bit here already.

fab. girls.....alot of us can't help but we are still watching to see what happens. come on Ceasar....

What job does Zoe do that keeps her out till nearly 8pm. Not very genes reunited friendly is it?

right - theres this family on 1901. the father is a Paint Grinder, but, given his age by th etime of the marriage and the fact I'd imagine grinding paint is quite strenuous it wouldn't surprise me that he had a change of occupation. 32 Lamb Street, Kirkdale Lancashire Catharine Gill abt 1866 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Wife Elizabeth Gill abt 1891 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Daughter James Ed Gill abt 1893 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Son John Gill abt 1866 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Head John Gill abt 1895 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Son Kirkdale Lancashire Joseph Gill abt 1900 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Son Mary Ellen Gill abt 1897 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Daughter Mary Ellen Dunn abt 1892 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Niece Still looking for other possibilities but I'll also trace these guys backwards in teh census Z

okay guys I'm struggling with this - probably because I'm hot and tired. There doesn't look to be anyother likely John juniors in 1901 - none with a father called John and a on-par occupation. The John senior I found above in the 1901 census doesn't have any likely matches in the 1891 census born in Liverpool - there is one who's an engraver but that seems like a bit of a difference in jobs. If he wasn't born LIverpool then I'm stunped as there loads of John Gill's. If the family in 1901 is correct than youngest child Elizabeth was registered in West Derby district in Dec Q 1891 - which would lead one to assume parents were married at teh time of the census - or married shortly after - so I'm gonna start looking backwards from Dec 1891 for a marriage for JOhn Thomas senior. if anyone has a better idea do share Zoe

Theres a marriage Mar 1891 for JOhn Thomas Gill in W Derby - but there's no matching Catharine. I'm going round in circles and it's all speculation so I'm gonna go take a rest and see what my head come sup with Z

Right, here I am!!!!!! Ummmmmmmmm.....................To save me reading all 62 replies and trying to remember what this was all about..........Please can someone tell me, is there still anything to be done?? ! LOL Merry