Genealogy Chat

No nothing recorded. Strangely i seem to have an Elmer child with Martha's sister in the 1901. Her sister was also married in 1885,the child born in 1888. Children of the correct names predate and postdated to this Elmer child. Martha is my g g/m,(at least i thought she was)deefinately getting to the open lettter stage.

I bet this is George's first marriage, as his daughter was a niece to the Broughton's in 1881: Marriages Sep 1874 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Broughton Ellen Lincoln 7a 756 Chambers George Lincoln 7a 756 Is he recorded as a widower on the cert you have? Merry

Thanks Merry, i think we are getting dangerously close to another Lilly here,and here mob spread across Lincs and Notts area with similiar names(George Martha and Frederick abound plus a smattering of Eliza***t) Don't expend any more time on it for now,will soon have another cert and will try to decipher what i have. Thanks Glen

George is a Chambers. Ancestry have transcribed his whole family as Gresham on the 1891 census. it's a mistake. Merry

Gervase Broughton married Mary Ann Marriott in 1878: Name: Broughton, Gervase Record Type: Marriages Quarter: December Year: 1878 District: Lincoln County: Lincolnshire Volume: 7a Page: 1011 Merry

The remaining dau, Elizabeth, is with another family: Gervase Broughton abt 1842 Navenby, Lincoln, England Head 30 High St, Navenby, Lincolnshire, England Mary A. Broughton abt 1831 Holme, Huntingdon, England Wife 30 High St, Navenby, Lincolnshire, England Elizabeth Chambers abt 1879 Lincoln, England Niece 30 High St, Navenby, Lincolnshire, England Merry

I'm lost now, are we saying that George is a Chambers or a Gresham? Don't tell me i've another rellie who suddenly changes name somewhere,had one further down Lilly's hubbys' side and stalled at her for months. Glen

I don't think this Chambers family like taking part in the census: 1881 George Chambers abt 1844 Lincoln, England Brother 10 Moor St, Lincoln, Lincolnshire, England George H. Chambers abt 1869 Lincoln, England Nurse Child 10 Moor St, Lincoln, Lincolnshire, England George W. Chambers abt 1876 Lincoln, England Nephew 10 Moor St, Lincoln, Lincolnshire, England Joseph Chambers abt 1841 Lincoln, England Brother 10 Moor St, Lincoln, Lincolnshire, England Eliza Graby abt 1834 Lincoln, England Wife 10 Moor St, Lincoln, Lincolnshire, England George Graby abt 1831 Lincoln, England Head 10 Moor St, Lincoln, Lincolnshire, England Emma Hopley abt 1879 Lincoln, England Nurse Child 10 Moor St, Lincoln, Lincolnshire, England Lomas Wright abt 1877 Lincoln, England Nurse Child 10 Moor St, Lincoln, Lincolnshire, England That's him down as brother, at the top. No wife (obviously one before Martha), no marital status recorded. A couple of the children have been farmed out to relatives. Merry

Yes, he is George Chambers on the census. It's the transcript that's wrong. Merry

Ooh that,s interesting. Lilly wedding cert has father as George Chambers Frederick birth cert has father as George Chambers Martha Thorbon Elmer wedding cert to George Chambers in 1885. Major rethink needed now methinks. Might do an open letter to Martha lol. Thanks for your help. Glen

Oops, if you look at my last post, James Gresham, aged 55, shouldn't be there!!! He is the lodger from the last house. My error! Merry

A mystery no longer!!! The writing is NEAT too!!! Edward C Gresham abt 1890 Lincoln, Lincolnshire, England Son St Mary le Wigford Lincolnshire Elizabeth Gresham abt 1879 Lincoln, Lincolnshire, England Daughter St Mary le Wigford Lincolnshire Frederick Gresham abt 1886 Lincoln, Lincolnshire, England Son St Mary le Wigford Lincolnshire George Gresham abt 1842 Lincoln, Lincolnshire, England Head St Mary le Wigford Lincolnshire George W Gresham abt 1876 Lincoln, Lincolnshire, England Son St Mary le Wigford Lincolnshire James Gresham abt 1836 Southery, Lincolnshire, England Lodger St Mary le Wigford Lincolnshire Joseph Gresham abt 1840 Lincoln, Lincolnshire, England Lodger St Mary le Wigford Lincolnshire Lily L Gresham abt 1888 Lincoln, Lincolnshire, England Daughter St Mary le Wigford Lincolnshire Martha Gresham abt 1855 Norwich, Norfolk, England Wife St Mary le Wigford Lincolnshire Gresham is the surname of the lodger in the house before them on the census!!! Merry

Hi Merry, he was a Labourer on one birth cert and marriage cert,cert for lilly birth in the post. I'm afraid i can't be more helpful than that. He is a mystery at the moment.

What was George's occupation on the marriage cert? and on any of the children's birth certs? Merry

Thanks Merry - I get confused - It's Nell that's cooking Chille con carne, not Jess. Hope the house move goes o.k. Jess - I wouldn't do it again !! Dea x

That's funny, I was just looking at ''the one'' in 1901, but didn't know it until I read your last post!!! A good omen? Merry

1881 Martha Thornton (mistranscribed) Elmes or Elmer B abt 1856 Billingford Unmarried waitress,domestic servant Crown Hotel Fylde Lancs 1901 visitor in St Mary Le Wigford Lincoln with Frederick abt 1889 and Lilly abt 1888 Have marriage cert to George but no age for George Chambers,so struggling with his birth Glen

Glen, are you sure it's that Martha?? (the Norfolk one?) Merry

I am still looking, Glen.... Dea....Jess is moving house!! Don't know about the chilli/spag bol.....both orangy coloured....??? Merry

Jess, I thought it was Chille con carne ?? Where ar you going anyway - on hols?? Dea x