Genealogy Chat

hi all im relatively new to the whole family tree buisiness and being only 16 am already hooked! anyway i have been looking for the index info on two of my ancestors, mary ann long and george pethers. i have tralled through the pages looking but to no avail!! can anyone shed any light on why i can't find the info? any help would be very much appreciated, thanks

Hi Liz Where have you looked and what dates/places are you looking for? Heather

hi, i'm only 17, but i'm hooked too. What year are you looking at? What sites have you used?

well mary ann long was born in paddington around the year 1868. george pethers was born around the year 1867. i have looked mainly on the ancestry bmd but also 1837 online. also i searched around the year i thought they were born, alas nothing!

This might be her: View Record Mary Ann Long 1867 Jan-Feb-Mar Stepney Greater London, London, Middlesex or this: View Record Mary Ann E Long 1868 Jan-Feb-Mar Stepney Greater London, London, Middlesex

its free to look on Ancestry index which is the same as 1837 site you will some times get pages missing on ancestry so have to go on 1837 http://www.ancestry(.)co.uk/search/rectype/vital/freebmd/bmd.aspx remove bracket Jeanette

Pethers might have been written down as Peters

mary ann long from stepney sounds promising, would it still be accurate even though the location isnt 100% ? i wouldn't want to get the wrong cert

Depends on what regestration district etc. She might not have been born in [paddington, but inbetween there and stepney, (i don;t know how far they are apart)

yeah this is the point where it gets a bit tricky isn't it! hmm about the name pethers, if it was peters i think iam going off on completly the wrong track. its just frustrating when you really want to find something but tis not there

Were these two a married couple? If so, do you have the marriage certificate? Heather

can you not find them on censuses? Do you know what their fathers/parents are called? Are you wanting the birth to try and find the mothers maiden name?

yes i have hazard a guess about who their parents were etc from the census' but i need to be sure. yes i have also considered a marriage cert since they were married, but i want to find out the mothers maiden which to my knowledge doesn't appear on that cert?

no it appears on birth cert. perhaps you should order marriage cert first with fathers name on and then you can find them in earlier censuses and then look at siblings etc.

Liz, sorry Im a bit confused about what you already have and what you are looking for please? This is the only Mary A Long I can see in 1871 - born Paddington, is this the information you have, or where did you get that year of birth from for her please? What solid evidence do you already have? View Record Maria Board abt 1809 Huntspill, Somerset, England Visitor St Marylebone London View Record Anne L Long abt 1831 Chilcompton, Somerset, England Wife St Marylebone London View Record George Long abt 1840 Westwell, Oxfordshire, England Head St Marylebone London View Record Mary A Long abt 1863 Paddington, Middlesex, England Daughter St Marylebone London

The marriage cert will give you their father's names so you will have a better idea of their families on the census records. Heather

sorry- even i get confused by what im saying. i know her approx birth year because of looking at the 1901 census for which i know for certain that its her. it stated she was 33 when the census was taken

So this is their marriage: Marriages Dec 1890 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- LONG Mary Ann Kensington 1a 200 Pethers George Kensington 1a 200 Dont always believe ages on census, they can vary by several years depending on who is doing the answering and how much they want to knock off or add on to their ages.

yes i now realise that the ages are not also accuarate- but i just need the birth cert purley for the info about the mother ie maiden name which isnt offered on the marriage cert

The marriage cert would give both of their fathers names and occupations and help you go back further on the paternal sides of both of them. There are too many Mary Ann Longs in a reasonable time span and area for you to guess at a birth reference. I would personally get that marriage certificate which you know is THE RIGHT Mary Ann and that will lead you to her birth certificate by matching the father up in a census with his name and occupation. It will be cheaper in the long run and more accurate than any other way plus you get the bonus of both dads and the witnesses and the addresses they were at when they married. You could waste a lot of money trying to guess at which birth reference she is.