Genealogy Chat

Karen, glad to be of assistance lizz

Oh Lizz what a fab Mother's Day Pressie! you found them you are a *superstar* thanks so much for finding them on the 1851 & yet another new christian name, Nehomi(Naomi) I think maybe on the 1861 the enumerator should have put Ruth as 2yrs & Mary as 9months ( I maybe wrong,as I have yet to find their BMD's, but Ruth is on 71 age 12 & married on 81 age 22) best regards Karen

Karen please check hotmail as i have left you a message .i found them in 1851 census lizz

many thanks for image it is super clear. Cheers Elizabeth, well will have to get to bed now(11pm here up in 5hrs!) & get searching bmd's again . best regards karen

yes I know this one is a head ach one all I know it could be Monmouth thanks again Debbie

Elizabeth I have sent you a PM with email addy. The aston lot have been really good up to now and mostly give a second/ middle name to replacement kids. (I think I am going to have to dig out my new magnifying glass and check details printed on marriage cert-haven't seen it in a whlie) Edwin & his father Isaiah have yet to be discovered on the 1851--(several people have previously tried looking for them to no avail)

Karen maybe not a fib but could be another child as 1st mary may have died.i have found this happens alot. lizz

Thanks Elizabeth they are starting to get the better of me, think someone may have made an error on either ruth or Mary (years or months or I have really big liars!!!) 1871 ruth aston age 12(1859) b.Tipton Staffordshire, occ. scholar. living schedule no.61.oldbury rd, west bromwich staffordshire. if you have the image that would be lovely. thanks very much. regards karen

Karen ,, it definately said 2 months i can email you it if you want. lizz

Debbie so sorry this one is evading me.where did they get married or where was thomas born to give me a bit of a starting point please. lizz

Elizabeth many thanks for looking. you may have found my 1st big fib!! can I be a pain and now ask you to check that the age for Ruth , that it definately says 2 months... Somethings not quite right here.with Mary..... as she is listed on the 1871 1871 mary aston age 10 tipton,west bromwich staffordshire,occ. scholar,living schedule no.61,oldbury rd, west bromwich staffordshire regards karen

Thanks a lot, Elizabeth - now I have an approximate date of birth for John, I may be able to make some more progress with him.

Karen mary was 9 yrs old in this census which means she was born before marriage. it also says schedule no 114 oldbury road west bromwich. lizz

here goes Edwin Davies married Sarah Beaver 1874 both aged 19 on thier marrage cert father named as Alfred Davies profession Ostler they had a son Tom Davies b. 1879 I know Edwin died around the same time as on the 1881 census Tom was with his grandparents who I know brought him up that is every thing I know thanks I do appreciate this Debbie

Hi Elizabeth could you please check details below on the 1861 Astin family (all other census listed as Aston/Astons) 1861 census Edwin Astin (abt 1840)age 21 b. Tipton, Staffs. Head .M. oc c. Puddler. living schedule no.114 Oldbury Road (marriage cert-father Isaiah Aston occ Black(smith? image not clear) witness Edward (astons or fallows ?) and Sarah Ann Gough's x-mar)) 1861 census Alice Astin 22yrs b. Cosely Staffs. Wife. M. living schedule 1 14 Oldbury Road. (aka Mary Alice nee Evans married 15/08/1858 -father listed as Thomas Evans) 1861 census Ruth Astin 2 mo(1861) b. Tipton, Staffs Dau.Unm. living schedule 1 14 Oldbury Road. (all other census list born 1859) 1861 Mary Astin age ...... b. Tipton, Staffs. Dau. Unm. living schedule 114 Oldbury Road. can you tell me,does it list an age for Mary please as I don't seem to have it & does the address say schedule 114, Oldbury road or schedule 1, no14 Oldbury road . regards Karen

Debbie who did edwin marry then and i might find her.were they born in wales and stayed in wales or moved to england. lizz

All I know is he died 1878/1880 around the time his son was born, I can't even find his death, I knew he was Edwin Davies from his son's marrage cert, and his wife so I got his marrage cert and got his father's name, but as for Edwin all I ever found was his marrage nothing else thank you Debbie

Debbie could you possibly give me more info as i havehad a look at welsh and english census and can't find either.sorry.do you know where hewas in 1901 census or his occupation etc. lizz

Jane sorry it's taken so long but here goes. 1851 census mary hall head 1803 dressmaker stephen hall durham isabella hall 1832 daughter school mistress ryton durham nicholas w hall 1839 son pitman ryton durham robert hall 1837 son pitman ryton durham henry j hall 1943 son pitman ryton durham william cummingham 1830 son in law pitman scotland ann cummingham 1829 wife ryton durham mary j cummingham 1850 daughter 3 months north d howden. they lived pit row chirton northumberland HO107/2409 f230 page 27. 1861 census mary hall 1803 head widow ryton durham isabell hall 1832 daughter dressmaker ryton micheal wm hall 1839 son labourer ryton henry joseph hall 1843 son labourer ryton john stephenson hall 1852 grandson howden pr sheilds mary ann hall 1860 granddaughter 10 months jarrow ann cunningham 1831 daughter ryton mary jane cunningham 1851 granddaughter ryton micheal wm cunningham 1853 grandson howden pr sheilds ellizabeth hall 1857 granddaughter jarrow shields they lived west grumdon street north bishop wearmouth sunderland pro RG9/3768 folio 5 page 3. 1881 census henry j hall 1844 head iron ship plater ryton susanna hall 1858 wife stockton yorkshire mary e hall 1875 daughter sunderland margaret j hall 1875 daughter sunderland ann hall 1878 daughter sunderland john hall 1880 son sunderland they lived 7 hillfield terrace bishop wearmouth durham.pro RG11/4989 folio 103 page 10. 1891 census henry joseph hall head 49 plater in shipyard ryton susan ann hall wife 33 stockton mary elizabeth hall 16 sunderland margaret jane hall 15 sunderland annie hall 13 sunderland john hall 11 sunderland susan ann hall 9 sunderland martha hall 7 sunderland henry joseph hall 4 sunderland florence hall 2 sunderland thomas hall 6 weeks sunderland they lived 21 hedworth street monkswearmouth shore sunderland durham.pro RG12/4149 folio 59 page 9. in 1901 census henery j hall 1842 head plater iron ship yard wrighton durham susannah hall 1854 wife south stockton john hall 1880 son bricklayer sunderland susannah hall 1882 d ropery works spinner sunderland henry j hall 1887 son balcksmith's app sunderland thomas hall 1891 son monwrmouth durham william hall 1896 son monwrmouth durham philip hall 1900 son monwrmouth durham robert hall 1893 son monwrmouth durham they lived 21 hedworth street monkwearmouth shore sunderland durham .pro RG13/4721 folio48 page 37. henry joseph hall married a susannah hunter on 1/03/1874 bishopwearmouth durham. his fathers name was micheal william hall. i couldn't find him in the 1871 census but i hope this has given you something to go on. lizz

Please could you look up an Edwin Davies b. 1855/+-3 with a father Alfred Davies South Wales U.K. father in 1872/1876 was an Ostler thank you Debbie