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Patsy

Patsy Report 2 Apr 2006 06:39

I have three generations of Donald McFarlane who each married a lady called Isabella. Of course, it being in Scotland, all three families promptly named their children.........you guessed it! Donald and Isabella!

MaryfromItaly

MaryfromItaly Report 2 Apr 2006 05:29

My Mallets are mostly Thomases and Jonathans who married Mary Anns and had daughters called Ellen, Elizabeth and Elizabeth Ellen, until the tedium was suddenly broken when one of them called his daughter Obedience. And I'm still trying to work out whether four pre-1837 Mallets are siblings. According to IGI, their parents are John Mallet and Ann, James Mallet and Mary Anne, John Mallet and Mary Anne, and John Mallet and Marianne. Goodness knows whether these are four couples or all the same couple.

Unknown

Unknown Report 1 Apr 2006 23:34

Tina We must be related, lol! I have a Joseph Williams who marries a Mary and they have a Joseph Williams who marries an Elizabeth, and they imaginatively have a Mary and a William Williams. William Williams breaks the trend and names his son Charles. BUT cleverly he lives in the same small village as another William Williams with a son called Charles of about the same age. My William Williams changes his place of birth with every census from 1841-1901 and his son Charles is married in the village where the other Charles was baptised. BUT I have found that its the same in Wales. Except that for William substitute Thomas and for Mary you can alternate with Margaret. As for the Jewish side, all the women are called Esther or Julia and the men have names like Zalig, which are a) extremely common in the Jewish community and b) consistently misrecorded. AAAAHHHH! By contrast, the easiest line I've traced so far are my Gray lot, even though the men are nearly all called John or William. nell

TinaTheCheshirePussyCat

TinaTheCheshirePussyCat Report 1 Apr 2006 23:24

ooooooh Lynne - and I though I had problems! I've got enough trouble just being me, without being related to me as well. Tina

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₪ TeresaW elite empress of deleted threads&# Report 1 Apr 2006 23:08

Good thing GR allows us to type William or Mary or this site would collapse! LOL T x

Lynne

Lynne Report 1 Apr 2006 23:07

Sarah More weird facts:- My brother and sister are my 3rd cousins, my aunts and uncles are my 2nd cousins once removed, my nephews and neices are my 3rd cousins once removed and my grandchildren are my 3rd cousins twice removed. and.... I am my own 3rd cousin!!!! Can anyone beat that - LOL! Lynne

Lynne

Lynne Report 1 Apr 2006 23:04

Moe It's cos you have a full stop then the word confused. GR does not allow you to put web addys that end with a dot and c and o, (or c and o and m) so if you put a full stop and then a c and an o it will not come out right. Wonder if this will?? Lynne

Sarah

Sarah Report 1 Apr 2006 22:38

Gracious! Lynne, That is totally w-i-e-r-d ! ! I'll have to try that in FTM - I still haven't got to grips with 'cousins x times removed' etc

moe

moe Report 1 Apr 2006 22:37

My William married Mary in the 1850s had a son William daughter Mary, William married Mary (not his sister, that would be another story) in 1880s and when i do searches i get so muddled i end up spending a fortune coz i am getting confused with the dates, i have notebooks full of info on William and Mary and when i try to cross reference it i can't remember which one it is and have to search again.confused so am i.....Moe Is there a reason why this thread will not allow the word CONFUSED on it? it should be on the last line before 'so am I' now i am even more confused...MOE!

Lynne

Lynne Report 1 Apr 2006 22:26

I have a similar problem with all my Edward Fords and my Joseph Owens. Edward Ford had a son called Edward; he also had a brother called Francis who had a son called Edward born within a year of Edward's son. (Are you still with me - LOL!). My maternal grandparents were first cousins, in FTM 2005 there is a facility to check relationships and my 2 children are also my 3rd cousins once removed and mother is my 2nd cousin once removed. My grandmother is also my 1st cousin once removed!! How weird is that - LOL!!

Helen

Helen Report 1 Apr 2006 22:22

Doesn't anyone have a problem with Thomas as well? My G Grandad was Thomas, his Dad William, his Dad Thomas, His Dad William.

TinaTheCheshirePussyCat

TinaTheCheshirePussyCat Report 1 Apr 2006 22:16

On my goodness, Olde Crone. I shall stop complaining about my 8 generations of William Jordan's. At least they had the decency to marry women with different names. It's the 5 generations of William Habberley's that are driving me nuts at present - they seem to be following in the footsteps of your Greens, marrying Mary's and cousins and calling their children by identical names. You do have to count to 10 sometimes though, don't you, when you get a message which starts 'I have a William Jordan in my tree - are we related?' Which one, which one, I scream! Tina

Sarah

Sarah Report 1 Apr 2006 21:59

OMG how very confusing.. I guess I'm lucky then with 4 generations of Barnabus Burroughes before my gg grandfather ! haven't quite sorted them out yet as some of them are cousins. ho hum....-even the unusual names can get confusing!

An Olde Crone

An Olde Crone Report 1 Apr 2006 20:27

On the other side of my family I have fourteen unbroken generations of Thomas Greens. They lived in the same farmhouse for at least 400 years. Generation 10 and generation 8 each married Mary Robinson, their cousin. Both families have an identical run of named children. I have to be VERY careful that I do not muddle up the two generations and only work on this family early in the day LOL. They came from a small village which had, I suppose, about 30 families. The Greens married into every family in this village and I am wildly thinking of renaming this branch 'the Gawsworths', as everyone is related to everyone else, several times over and I lose track amongst all the Miss Mary's and Mrs Mary's etc. I tried giving them all a unique number, but that didnt work either, as some of them finished up with about 70 numbers, because I had to give the references a reference to the parents/grandparents! Olde Crone

Kim

Kim Report 1 Apr 2006 20:13

I think there must be a law that all women related to you are called Elizabeth or Mary, if they weren't then they probably aren't related to anybody.... All father/sons related to you will always marry a woman with the same name as their own mother ! I have Eight generations of Elizabeth in one branch. Therefore don't do your family tree just write the same names down a few times 20 years appart and it will grow in no time! Kim

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₪ TeresaW elite empress of deleted threads&# Report 1 Apr 2006 20:11

YOu know what? If they are 'up there' watching us, they must all have tears running down their faces from laughing. I think the joke is on us, don't you? Mind you, we thought we (20th century people ) had made it easy for future generations with different names etc, and what do they do? They decide not to get married, or they have children by different fathers, or divorce and remarry several times, so future generations will be shaking their fists at us too. Ah well... T x

An Olde Crone

An Olde Crone Report 1 Apr 2006 20:03

James Holden marries Margaret Slater (spinster of this Parish) At almost the same time, James Holden marries Margaret Slater (Widow of this Parish) A bit later (but not much) James Holden (widower) marries Margaret Slater, spinster of this Parish. This last Margaret Slater is the daughter of Widow Slater. Beyond that I have not got. The above information spawned a tree on AWT which led to poor old Margaret Slater giving birth to 44 children over a period of 20 years, some born only weeks apart, and shock horror, some of their fathers being Margaret's own five year old son, James Holden. Olde Crone

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₪ TeresaW elite empress of deleted threads&# Report 1 Apr 2006 20:01

errr....checks tree....no ta, got a few Elizabeths, and the Sarah's and Johns are causing me a bit of bovver too. Thanks goodness for the two Shentons. T x

Rachel

Rachel Report 1 Apr 2006 19:58

Anyone want some Elizabeths??? I have Elizabeth, whose daughter was Elizabrth Ann, whose sister in law was Elizabeth, whose daughter was Elizabrth Ann confused yet?? Then the other side of he family there must be 10 generations of Jophn, William, Robert (brothers, fathers, sons and cousins) can I kill them yet?? oh heck! there already gone! lol

SheilaSomerset

SheilaSomerset Report 1 Apr 2006 19:50

I've got a Joseph and Mary - who named their children........ Joseph, Mary and William !!