Genealogy Chat

LoL........Glen, cat got the shiniest coat in the neighbourhood now then? Similar thing happened when my kids were young, had new carpet down five minutes came down to find it decorated with a tin of treacle, tomato sauce and baby talcum, topped off with torn sheets of newspaper..............luckily just in one corner of the room! Lin

Yeah it is fortunately,the cat isn't but that is his look out.lol Glen

Glen, sort of thing that happens to me - was the carpet insured? Really pees you off though doesnt it. Still, as they say 'worse things happen at sea'.

I'm so glad it's not just me then. Just a shame it wasn't boat varnish eh?Oh the irony. Glen

Glen you are not the only one who has bad days, I drove 90 miles yesterday for a stop over at a friends, left this morning and had to turn back as had left my glasses behind. ok I have several pairs but they are my favourite Set off again, halfway home realised i had left my brand new coat. ok i have plenty of others but it was my favourite. this time I kept going. I really did not want to outstay my welcome. some times you just have to cut your losses. as they say cie la vie

Oh dear Glen...what a disaster, let's hope you have better luck with your research. When I put up this thread, I was supposed to be going out but, the answers came so thick and fast, I felt obliged to reply and they just got all the more interesting and informative.........I couldn't tear myself away in the end............that's how it gets you eh lol? Lin

I will certainly have a look. The law of sod working today,just finished decorating and had a carpet fitted,the carpet fitter chipped the skirting so i revarnished the dodgy spot,then dropped the varnish all over the new carpet. I hate Saturdays AAARRRGGGHHH. Rant over Glen

Christine, Have you checked out my other thread on MARINERS & THE CENSUS'? It's probably on page 2 or three by now.............If you haven't seen it, there is more info on there which might be useful to you. I too found it all facinating stuff..........just have to figure out where to start now, unlike you, I haven't had Mariners/Seamen etc...........didn't know there were any in the family. Lin

All your replies are fasinating. Have recently found out my GGG grandfather was a Master Mariner, I was lucky to copy the vessel logs of 1851 &1861, written in his own hand, which was quite a thrill but Ihad no idea of the skills involved in becoming the 'captain' of the ship he commanded. I'm now on a mission to check out the vessels involved and find out where he went on his travels. Any more tips as to where I can search? oops- I meant 1861 & 1881 His name was Charles Almond he was master of the vessel 'Atkin' in 1861 with 8 crew. His family lived in Westoe Durham and I am presuming it could have been a fishing vessel possibly sailing from the river Tyne. IN 1881 he was Mate[2nd in command to a crew of over 15. I think the vessel is SS Said/Sard

Glen, also on my other thread Mariners & the census' on page 2 presently. Lin

Glen, Not questions I'm qualified to answer unfortunately but take a look at some of the sites kindly supplied by other members on here, I have had a brief look at all of them, and I did notice that they cover injuries and such, with regard to your question of early retirement. Lin

Just to throw in a question here,my g g/f was a master mariner,b 1847,and by 1885 and my g/f being born,my master mariner had retired.Does that seem early to retire from the proffession?I would have thought the time needed to achieve the status of master mariner would have meant he continued beyond his mid/late thirties,although he died at the age of 44 (reason unknown). I'm still to order his death cert,i'm wondering if he was injured and unable to continue his duties. Glen

Moe, it was very generous of you to take the time, it doesn't look as though these fit, and I do already have the parents and their sisters info. It was just the two brothers and their wives that have caused the headaches.........but that happens in most family research from all accounts..........something may come to light, later down the line. In the meantime, I'm very happy with all the help, advice and new directions/avenues, opened up to me for the time being...........don't know how long this will keep me occupied lol? But I can't complain when so many of you out there have been searching for years on end. Thankyou everyone for your input. <(*u*)> Lin

Lin, not much luck i'm afraid. 1843 Charles Chandler cooper and cowkeeper, 48 Peter St. Charles Chandler Greengrocer, 42 Great Homer St. John Chandler jun, Ironmonger and Furniture broker, 76 Richmond row. john chandler locksmith and bell ringer 17 shaws brow. John Chandler Whitesmith, Cambrian Place, 13 Burroughs gardens. 1860 Charles Chandler Ironmonger 36 Hatton Garden john Chandler, dealer in birds 22 Hood St the problem with the first lot is they would be to old to be your rellies, although they could be fathers of, i looked through stevedores, mariners, and Block &Pump makers but no Chandlers were registered at that time........Moe

That's very generous of you Moe.......... Both great uncles, brothers trained as Block makers.......their names were Jonathan Chandler b 1834 who married in 1858 & Charles Chandler b 1837 and married in 1860. It is Charles' marriage cert this info comes from, I am still awaiting Jonathans. Could be that they both went to sea with their trade, as they are invisible to me from 1851 onwards. Lin

lin, if you put rellies name up i will look through gores 1843 and 1860 to see if they are listed. most times the ordinary docker isn't but quite a few mariners made the list.........Moe

Nice one Moe....everyones getting me well supplied for the search, keep them coming folks..........I feel as though I'm half way there already...........Thanks so much! Lin

Lin, another great site is, http://www.old-merseytimes(.)co(.)uk/ remove brackets click on shipping for lots of info of mersey docks.......enjoy.......Moe

Hmmm yes it does make sense Heather.........I can see these two brothers are going to set me a merry chase lol... Still, I have had lots of valuable help and advice, I shall get myself organised over the weekend, as to where to start first....wish me luck! lol. Thanks so much for sharing your invaluable knowledge so generously. Lin

Oh definitely - as I said my GGF was a stevedore who went to sea on merchant ships - they had to be unloaded and loaded wherever in the world they were! 'Mariners' were multi-skilled. I know he def went to somewhere like Canada as one of the pressies he gave Gran was a pair of little seals made out of real seal skin (yuck - very non pc now) There was also a brooch which hurt your eyes to look at it - I dont know where its got to - perhaps my sis had it - but it is definitely not european. Mum used to say it was made from butterflies wings???