Genealogy Chat

Thanxs Teresa Well I dont know about the lot on LDS...it just tallies with the 1881 given to my mum someone found for her....But we dont know if thats our lot on 1881.... On her death cert she is down as Hannah...so that is why we are struggling to narrow down her birth she is Ann / Anner and also Hannah.. Families Huh lol Just seem to be going round in circles with this lot thanxs so much for looking again :~) Lesley :~)

IF you are going with the IGI then they have her being born 12 Jan1870 ANN MORGAN -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Event(s): Birth: 12 JAN 1870 Dawley, Shropshire, England -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Parents: Father: EDWIN MORGAN Mother: ANN BEECH There is this Ann born in Madeley district (Sub-districts : Broseley; Dawley; Madeley; Much Wenlock) Ann Morgan Name: Ann Morgan Year of Registration: 1870 Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar District: Madeley County: Shropshire Volume: 6a Page: 647

Nudge up Incase anyone else has ideas? Lesley :~)

Robyne I am not sure if this is our family still... I think that Helen is right about Doddington is Donnington.... So I think the next step is to try and find Ann Morgan b:c1868 Dawley Shropshire???? and send for cert and get Parents names..and if it is Mother Ann beech then we have got the right family on LDS and census's given earlier on this thread..... But that could be expensive as so Many Ann / Anne / Annie Any ideas? Lesley :~)

How about writing to the person who submitted and ask them? Their addresses are available and they obviously have a lot of info about the ones who went to the states?

1891 England Census Record Name: Ann Morgan Age: 23 Estimated birth year: abt 1868 Relation: Servant Gender: Female Where Born: Bonnington, Shropshire, England Civil parish: St Leonards Original looks like Donnington

There is also this Gertrude Cranmer who married shortly after Annie Na Abert who seems to be ib the right area. Marriages Jun 1897 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Cranmer Gertrude Glanford B. 7a 1715 Thorpe Edmund Glanford B. 7a 1715 1901 England Census – living 76 Manley Gdns - Hawker Ellen Love abt 1885 East Dereham, Norfolk, England Visitor Glanford Brigg Lincolnshire Annie Thorpe abt 1900 Brigg, Lincolnshire, England Daughter Glanford Brigg Lincolnshire Edmund Thorpe Jr. abt 1873 Brigg, Lincolnshire, England Head Glanford Brigg Lincolnshire Gertrude Thorpe abt 1876 East Dereham, Norfolk, England Wife Glanford Brigg Lincolnshire Gladys Thorpe abt 1899 Brigg, Lincolnshire, England Daughter Glanford Brigg Lincolnshire

Helen I have looked again on LDS site and all the different info IGI..Pedigree...Ancestral... all tallies with 1881 census info..... Mum got really excited when she saw PEDIGREE....does this mean anything special? We also thought about Doddington Being Donnington but have not got a clue....? Lesley :~)

Hi thanxs for info Helen :~) On LDS site we typed in the info given to my mum regarding 1881 census and found Edwin / Edward and family on Ancestral File with lots of Family dates.....Including daughter ANN b:1870 and some siblings....3 of which it says moved and died abroad. 2 In Vancouver and 1 in Alberta. Mum has never been told about rellies going abroad so she is doubting if this is OUR bunch.... HELP Lesley :~)

Hi Lesley I looked for Gertrude Cranmer on the census, quite an unusual name so there were only 2 and one was too young. Then looked for the marriage cert info for the husband around the time of the first child and there he was with a Gertrude. I cant find Fred anywhere! on 1891, there are still a few of the children at home. How did you find out they had moved abroad?

I have done a LOT of research for the Dawley area and the IGI is pretty spot on if you makes sure that you use the Parish Records (Batch Numbers start C or M usually). The coverage for the area is really good. could Doddington be Donnington? There are two places called Donnington near Dawley but it usually refers to donnington Wood which is part of Lilleshall, Shifnal is the reg. district.

Hi Can I ask how on earth did you find the info for Gertrude? Yes Edwin died in Hoyland Common In yorkshire in 1894 according to Ancestral file on LDS..... Mums not sure now if this is the right family as 3 of the kids moved abroad on LDS info and she doesnt remember anybody mentioning that...so she is having doubts AGAIN.. If only we could find Ann's Birth in Doddington..... So Stuck and frustrated with this part of the family..... Lesley :~)

The only thing ive found so far is Gertrudes maiden name was Allt, and was from Yorkshire. The Edwin Morgan you have found also lived in Yorkshire in 1891. Very loose connection!

Hi Info just got off my mum the Witnesses on cert are Fred Heave & Gertrude Cranmer as far as we know they are not in family anywhere YET .... Lesley :~)

Hi Lesley the witnesses can sometimes be a very good confirmation. I was able to confirm the link to one family from the witnesses, it turns out the female i didnt know was actually the brides sister who married. Doesnt always work out like that though unfortunately!

Yes Annie But we dont know them....no relation Lesley :~)

Does the marriage certificate give witnesses?

Got to pop out But will be back soon and check if any one has been able to solve the mystery Thanxs Lelsey :~)

Yes Teresa Thank you That is the Family given to my mum from distant relly....when she asked him to find Edwin with Daughter Annie But how do we know it is OUR Ann that married Albert James Owen.... That is where I am stuck Lesley :~)

I have got 1901 census for Ann & Albert I know this is right Family This is My Mums Grandmother.... Name: Anner Owen Age: 33 Estimated birth year: abt 1868 Relation: Wife Household: View other family members Gender: Female Where born: Doddington, Shropshire, England Civil parish: Coppenhall Monks Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch County/Island: Cheshire Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Education: Employment status: View image Source information: RG13/3355 Registration district: Nantwich Sub-registration district: Crewe ED, institution, or vessel: 10 Folio: 103 Page: 23 Household schedule number: 160 But cant find a birth for her in Doddington. that is why we have struggled.. Lesley :~)