Genealogy Chat

thanks Mary :-)

Well, dear old Mary in Italy has been lurking (and I thought I was all alone on here tonight) and has very kindly found you the reference you need for the certificate. If you buy it from the records office where the event was first registered. Ive updated further down with the address you need if you buy from the GRO online site. See below

Helen, you have a lot to take in here. So print it all off. Treble check that it makes sense (Im half way through a bottle of sauvignon so dont want to have made mistakes!). Then decide what more info you need. Do you need to get Rebecca Wheelers marriage cert aswell to trace the Wheeler line? Check in again tomorrow when you have sorted all this lot first! Personally, although he isnt your ancestor, Id want to find out about George Rathmells death - you could always send for his death certificate? (Mary, are you still lurking - freebmd is down - dont have a handy George Rathmell death do you??? 1901-1909?)

thankyou will try speak with my nan tomorrow and will speak to you soon thanks again for your help and time i really appreciate it!!!!1

Helen, couldnt resist it 1861: LIving 1 Goodys Yard, dad is a silk weaver Elizabeth Wheeler abt 1830 Sudbury, Suffolk, England Wife Sudbury St Peter Suffolk James Wheeler abt 1829 Sudbury, Suffolk, England Head Sudbury St Peter Suffolk Rebecca Wheeler abt 1853 Sudbury, Suffolk, England Daughter Sudbury St Peter Suffolk Susanna Wheeler abt 1851 Sudbury, Suffolk, England Daughter Sudbury St Peter And here is another marriage certificate for you to buy! Marriages Sep 1850 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Goodwin Elizabeth Sudbury 12 682 Wheeler James Sudbury 12

No George Rathmell death in Staffs BMD, but FreeBMD is working for me. These are the only ones I found, but none of them looks very promising. Deaths Sep 1866 RATHMELL George 15 Warrington 8c 96 Deaths Jun 1873 RATHMELL George 34 Skipton 9a 39 RATHMELL George Robert 0 Leeds 9b 270 Deaths Dec 1883 RATHMELL George 0 Leeds 9b 326 Deaths Dec 1887 Rathmell George Edwin 14 Keighley 9a 151 Deaths Jun 1897 Rathmell George 51 Wakefield 9c 35 Deaths Mar 1906 Rathmell George Douglas 2 Hunslet 9b 173

Wheres Hunslet? Perhaps Helen knows. Well, looks like a trawl then. Thanks for your collaboration Mary! I wish I was starting all over again - you get info coming in from all directions dont you. Now I sit and think, who shall I try again to find.

Hunslet's somewhere inYorkshire, I think. Just realised George was still alive in 1901, so I needn't have copied all that stuff. Would the marriage reference from StaffsBMD be OK for obtaining certificates from GRO? I seem to remember reading somewhere that the local offices use different reference numbers.

Oh Gawd, Mary, of course your right. Ill have a quick look for it on the ancestry bmd index - at least you have cut down the trawling!! HELEN: If you want to use the GRO online facility use this reference: Name: Samuel Keeling Year of Registration: 1848 Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec District: Cheadle County: Staffordshire Volume: 17 Page: 55 http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificate/index.asp You complete the form - just follow it through using the info you have above, remember to tick the box which asks if you have a reference. You complete the registration with your details, use a card to pay £7 and then wait for them to send the certificate. It will give you both fathers names.

Ive just looked for Georges death on a pay to view site - familyrelatives.org which is really useful usually for the period 1866-1920 as you can bring up all events for any name in one shot. Have to say, no George Rathmell died according to them from 1901-1911??? (Except a 2 year old in 1906) Im wondering if he were still alive when Maria left him and thats why she didnt marry until 1933?