Genealogy Chat

Hi Alter This is what I know of the Glasby children: Thomas, c.7-Apr-1822 Southampton (no further trace of this one - presumed died as baby?) George, c.13-Jul-1823 Southampton. House painter, married Sarah Ann Wallwin in Whitechapel, 1855. In Gt Queen St 1851 & 1861, Battersea 1871, 1881 & 1891 and ended up in Chertsey workhouse as a pauper in 1901. Died 1906 in Chertsey. Charlotte, b.20-Dec-1825 Southampton. Married Henry Richards (brewers servant) in 1856. Lived in St Giles until 1891, died in Wandsworth 1900. Elizabeth Sophia, b.8-Sep-1828 St Lukes - married George Phillips (a gunsmith) in 1854. Lived St Giles until 1861, then Battersea until at least 1901. (note she swaps the Elizabeth & Sophia around a bit!) James Thomas, b.28-Apr-1836 (note: christened as Thomas Frederick but I'm 99% certain he then went by the name James Thomas) - married Sarah Burnett Oct-1861 in Southampton (though was living in Gt Queens Place St Giles in 1861 census). He was a printer's pressman until his death in 1899. Lived in Battesea from 1871. Emily, b.1-Mar-1838 St Luke. Married in 1865 but was widowed & living with her brother George by 1881. Emma, b.9-Dec-1839 and died Q1, 1842. All the marriages & baptisms that I've found to date are CofE as far as I can tell. Mary had no occupation in 1841 (when Thomas was still around), she was an ''occasional porter'' in 1851 and a ''charwoman'' in 1861. Cheers, Richard

Hi Jean Thanks for that, but it looks like a child death: Births Mar 1846 Glasbey James Thomas Stepney 2 574 Deaths Jun 1846 GLASBEY James Thomas Stepney 2 341 Richard

Richard , Trying to get an angle on the old man-he is a shoemaker-sons dont follow suit-maybe not too much can be read into that as choices are more in london- what makes you think he came from hampshire- the southampton location-why there do you think?...... could have come from a seafaring background-took ill or got injured,changed occupations pre censi. is there a cordwainers apprentice record anywhere....if so its location could be a clue. I know that there was a london cordwainers apprentice records.

What is noticeable is that this is massively ,and I mean massively ,a northern name. Death records for Glasby 1851-1871- all midlands or north except one record.......and it happens to be your parish in London-if this record isnt a relative my name is Icky the Firebobby. William henry Glasby died Sep 1864 1b 303 St Giles. -looks like he was 2 years old.

Southampton-boats ,shipping etc. This name is around Hull and Sulcoates a fair bit-reckon theres a connection somewhere. scenario-hes from a shipping background in Hull or environs-moves to southampton through work- starts a family-something happens-accident or event to make them move to london-he takes up new trade-kids to support etc,family problems or such like with his family up in hull-he moves up there,and dies there. !!!

Hi Alter Thanks for your suggestions and comments. I too thought that it was a northern name, and there even seems to be an Irish connection. However, I stumbled upon the following website, and it seems that there was indeed a Glasby (often spelt Glasbey) family in the Isle of Wight and Hampshire: http://adeinnelson.homestead*com/Glasbey.html It seems that the Hants Glasb(e)ys descended from a certain Henry Clasbury born c1720 IOW, and the name changed to Clasby, then Glasbey and Glasby over the generations. So that particular family was not connected with the northern or Irish Glasbys. Now, all I know of my Thomas Glasby is that he married Mary Buss and christened his first 3 kids in Southampton. At the marriage, both claimed to be ''of the parish'' (ie Southampton), though I realise that doesn't necessarily mean he was born there. As mentioned, he's only been found on the 1841 census, where he was ''not born in county'' - i.e. not Middlesex (narrows it down a bit, eh!). His wife Mary Ann said yes to born in county in 1841, however she put Southampton down in 1851 and Twickenham(!) in 1861. So yes I am keeping an open mind on his birthplace, but Southampton does seem to be a distinct possibility. There's even a possible contender on the website that I mentioned above - a certain Thomas Salter Glasby (1792), who according to that site, married a Sarah Gunnaway - though no date is given so presumably a marriage hasn't been found. Or maybe Sarah died in childbirth and he married Mary Ann Buss the following year? All pure speculation at this stage, of course! Having said that, I've found no sign of the Thomas Salter Glasby with wife Sarah in the census either, so if he's not mine, then he's another absconder! His birth is one thing, but an even greater mystery from my point of view is why he suddenly vanished in the 1840's, leaving wife and several children behind? And at a time when he should have shown up in the records at least - census or death cert. I do so hate loose ends, and this bloke is loose at both ends LOL!! With regards to a change in occupation - well he was a cordwainer in Southampton, according to the baptism entries of his first 3 children - so he was definitely in that trade by his mid-20's, and before the move to London. With regards to William Henry, that name comes up several times in the descendants list, so I agree that this one was most likely another descendant (probably grandchild). Unfortunately poor WHG didn't live through a census, so I haven't managed to tie him in yet. Yet another cert for the list!... Cheers, Richard.