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I have finally got my fathers birth cert and can search for his side of my family. He was William shipley Gough born 1 march 1896 in Crich Carr R.B but registered in Belper. I was always told he was born in Belper, so hope this is right cert. His parents were John Gough and Sarah Ann Shipley. Could someone please tell me what the R.B after Crich Carr stands for and why the registration would have been in Belper. Also can you please help me find his family in the census and any occupations they had. Thank you for any help Sylvia

1901 ?? Annie M Buntery abt 1884 Crich Carr, Derbyshire, England Boarder Crich Derbyshire Agnes E Gough abt 1900 Crich Carr, Derbyshire, England Daughter Crich Derbyshire Alice M Gough abt 1890 Belper, Derbyshire, England Daughter Crich Derbyshire Isabella Gough abt 1898 Crich Carr, Derbyshire, England Daughter Crich Derbyshire John Gough abt 1892 Thurton Borth, Derbyshire, England Son Crich Derbyshire John H Gough abt 1864 Derbyshire, England Head Crich Derbyshire Sarah A Gough abt 1864 Darley Abbey, Derbyshire, England Wife Crich Derbyshire William S Gough abt 1896 Crich Carr, Derbyshire, England Son Crich Derbyshire Annie E Hampson abt 1885 Saw Mills Heage, Derbyshire, England Stepdaughter Crich Derbyshire John senior - occ Wire Drawer Add Crich Carr

Hi Sylvia, Crich Carr comes under Belper registration district so that is why the birth is registered there. Rose

Thank you Elaine would you have any idea of the fathers occupation was

1891 Alice Mary Gough abt 1890 Belper, Derbyshire, England Daughter Crich Derbyshire Annie Elizabeth Gough abt 1885 Bull Bridge, Derbyshire, England Daughter Crich Derbyshire John Henry Gough abt 1864 Derby, Derbyshire, England Head Crich Derbyshire Sarah Ann Gough abt 1864 Darley Abbey, Derbyshire, England Wife Crich Derbyshire occ wire drawer

Wire Drawer = someone who made wire by drawing the hot metal through dies

thank you Rose any idea what R.B stands for

1871 - mother Sarah Ann Shipley Alice Shipley abt 1830 Allestree, Derbyshire, England Wife Darley Abbey Derbyshire Emma E Shipley abt 1869 Darley Abbey, Derbyshire, England Daughter Darley Abbey Derbyshire Francis H Shipley abt 1866 Darley Abbey, Derbyshire, England Son Darley Abbey Derbyshire George Shipley abt 1858 Darley Abbey, Derbyshire, England Son Darley Abbey Derbyshire Herbert V Shipley abt 1871 Darley Abbey, Derbyshire, England Son Darley Abbey Derbyshire John Shipley abt 1855 Darley Abbey, Derbyshire, England Son Darley Abbey Derbyshire Sarah Shipley abt 1827 Belper, Derbyshire, England Sister Darley Abbey Derbyshire Sarah Ann Shipley abt 1864 Darley Abbey, Derbyshire, England Daughter Darley Abbey Derbyshire Thomas Shipley abt 1861 Darley Abbey, Derbyshire, England Son Darley Abbey Derbyshire William Shipley abt 1830 Belper, Derbyshire, England Head Darley Abbey Derbyshire William Shipley abt 1854 Darley Abbey, Derbyshire, England Son Darley Abbey Derbyshire

Not sure what the RB is. Rose

I find the 1901 census a little strange with the Hampson daughter listed as stepdaughter. Have looked at the image and I think it says Thompson. Have looked for a marriage for Sarah Ann to John Gough and cant see on at the moment on FREE BMD - but I have found this one which caught my eye because of the Thompson name ?? Marriages Jun 1884 Booth Samuel Belper 7b 959 SHIPLEY Sarah Ann Belper 7b 959 STONE Martha Belper 7b 959 Thompson John Belper 7b 959

Thank you, i seems this side of my family moved around a bit, just like my mothers side

She does seem to be born before the other children so maybe Sarah was married before

This is a birth for the Annie in the 1901 Births Dec 1884 Thompson Annie Elizabeth Belper 7b 642 Just wonder if Sarah Shipley married John Thompson, who then died - and she remarried John Gough ? possible deaths for a John Thompson if the above is right !! Deaths Sep 1884 Thompson John 64 Belper 7b 387 Deaths Sep 1885 Thompson John 41 Belper 7b 303 Deaths Mar 1886 Thompson John 31 Belper 7b 405

Here's the marriage: Marriages Sep 1888 THOMPSON Sarah Ann Belper 7b 798 GOUGH John Henry Belper 7b 798 John hasn't been transcriped yet Rose

A later marriage for them Marriages Sep 1888 Sarah Ann THOMPSON / John Gough Belper 7b 798 - so looks as if the above could be right

Thank you both so much, this is a great help

Do you think Annie Elizabeth Gough in 1891 and Annie E Hampson in1901 could be the same person

Personally - yes I do - particularly as we have found a possible Shipley/Thompson and Thompson/Gough marriage.

Not sure if I read your thread correctly, Sylvie, but Elaine says in one of her postings that Annie Eliz. Hampson looks like Thompson on the image, so it appears that she was Gough at birth (presumably born before the marriage) and assumed her step-father's surname on the census, which was fairly common. nell