Genealogy Chat

As a late comer to the puzzle how about the scenario that Frederick in 1861 was with grandparents rather than parents? Joshua 68 and Rebecca at 56 are old enough to be Edward's parents. If Sarah Ann either died in child birth, or left the family then Edward may have brought in a housekeeper to cope with the older children and sent the baby to his parents (or of course he could just have been visiting on census night bu got enumerated wrongly). PS have you noticed the ancestry transcript for 1851 has George's age wrong, he was 1 not 7. Think this is his birth ref: 1849 Sept quarter St Faith's 13 114

ok sue, no probs, u might be better off seeing if somewone has P/R's fro areas of norfolk as it isnt covered very well, in hugh wallis/IGI,, this may hold the key Julie

Hi Julie, I really am going to leave this for tonight now! Getting to the point where nothing is making sense! I will review everything tomorrow. Thankyou again, Sue

hiya, i dunno, need to find out where he came from in frist place, he could be working anywhere or with family members, grandparents? anything really, and he might not be under davy/ maybe davie? Julie

now this is even more confusing..the only Frederick on the 1861 census bn in Hethersett c 1854, seems to belong to another family... Eliza Davey abt 1837 Hethersett, Norfolk, England Daughter Little Melton Norfolk ****Fredk Davey abt 1853 Hethersett, Norfolk, England Son Little Melton Norfolk Joshua Davey abt 1793 Wreningham, Norfolk, England Head Little Melton Norfolk Rebecca Davey abt 1805 Hethersett, Norfolk, England Wife Little Melton Norfolk Rebecca Davey abt 1841 Hethersett, Norfolk, England Daughter Little Melton Norfolk If you're still hanging in here Julie...do you think this could be 'my' Frederick Parnell? Sue

oh... just seen that I typed Mary Ann....but she is only Mary A on census!...sry don't know where the Ann came from.. think i got confused with sarah ann?..but it looks a good possiblity that she was Mary Ann. just going on the hunt (again) for Frederick Parnell bn c1854, as he should have been on 1861 census, but wasn't.. Sue....will brb

erm, i dunno about drayton, praphs genuki?? could help, or heather postive thinker, she has lotsa rellies from norfolk, thought you said you had marr ref for george?? Julie

me again, If Mary Ann was born in Drayton, as stated on 1861 census, which reg district would that be in?...or how do I find out? Sue

Hi again Julie, You might wish you hadn't asked Julie...lol... With regards to Roly's marriage, yes I think it won't tell me anything new. Re the first marriage children... George and Mary Ann, I have nothing on them after 1861. I don't have them on any other census or a marriage for either.. Mary Ann could be the child of the 2nd Sarah, but without a birth ref, I don't know how I shall find out. There's also a Frederick that suddenly appears on the 1871 census. Who he belongs to, I don't know either. Again can't find a birth ref. Sue

hiya we know george was first born to sarah ann, what about mary ann??? as she was born in 1853??? if parnell was born to second sarah, this leaves a short gap in which to re-search for sarah anns death? does that make sense?? Julie and to find get marys birth would help

me again, just had another thought, have you tracked all of first marriages children????through census? there is a possiblility if the mother didnt die, she may be living with them later on???? JUlie

hiya, no worries, i like a puzzle, regarding marriage certs, if you just buy one of them that will give fathers name/occupation, think you really need to buy Rolys though as this will establish if parents were married, but even sometimes this isnt conclusive, but as you put roly parnell davy i would assume it is the same, ie not married but having dads name to link parentage, only way is to get cert, i would think that all children will be reg'd in davy/davey name, HTH Julie

Think I'm going to leave this family for tonight and take a fresh look at everything tomorrow. Thankyou for all your efforts Julie, you're a star! Its great just to be able to 'talk' something through, even if nothing new is found. I do appreciate the work you've put in, Sue

I've just had a thought... I do have a marriage for Rebecca and one for Albert, if i get their marriage certs.. that will help..? I'm getting to the point where I can't think clearly!...(think that's why I gave up last time i tried with this family) Sue

Hi Julie, Yes I did trawl through the images a few months ago for their deaths, didn't find anything, but without knowing for sure if they married, I could have easily missed something! I only have the birth cert for Edward Parnell Davy, as he was the only one I had a ref for. I think I may have just found the birth ref for Rowland Parnell - its under Roly Parnell Davy 1872. But I can't find the others. Sue

hiya again, you say you cant find a death or marriage, have you trawled the images on ancestry q by q?? to see if there is anything??? if not then i think this is the time to be looking, it is possible the first sarah didnt die, she may have remarried, do you have any other certs from second marriage regarding the children??? to see if a later one has name of davy (or parnell formerly davy), and in regard to the first one being named parnell, with no father, i would say that you are correct and this was the mothers way of linking the father to the son, I know i'm not helping much, but sometimes it helps to have it all infront of you Julie

The other problem I have is that I don't know for sure which children belong to which mother. There's a Frederick bn c 1854 who pops up in 1871, but is not with the family before. Oh yuck what a muddle! Thankyou for all your efforts Julie.. I will understand if you want to leave it now! I know I feel like chucking this family in the bin!!...lol Sue

that does look a possible Julie. It might be worth taking a chance on that.. Sue

Thanks Julie. I'm grateful for any help with this... Sue

there is this death Name: Sarah Parnell Birth Date: abt 1828 Year of Registration: 1888 Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec Age at death: 60 District: Norwich County: Norfolk Volume: 4b Page: 81 (click to see julie