Genealogy Chat

Searched through baptism's that are online for the Sheffield area and have had no joy. I think I have to call it a day as I may never know, going to log both Frank and Charlotte as children of Emma Ellis and Henry Hall and add noted to say named changed when the hussy shacked up with my Great great Grandad - lol Thanks for all the Help, I couldn't have got anywhere with this line without you, Now the search to find the real Fellows kids DOB's and their Mum's name begins Thanks again Joanne

I'm expecting Henry hall to be alive and kicking in 1881 and maybe for ages after that! Good point about the other Hall child - I'd forgotten about him. I suppose we are not going to find out, are we????!!!! I wonder if and of them were baptised and in wat name? Sometimes vicars were very clever at finding out what a registrar didn't. Also I think some people were willing to lie to the registrar (a criminal offence) but not to God! Merry

Merry don't do this to me - lol Ok what about this then..... When Emma Hall first appears ( living in the same house as the real Fellows kids, 1881 census) she is down as Charwoman, married and has a 4 month old son called Frank Hall ( Charlotte with Wallace Fellows )!!!! Mmmmm could Frank be a Hall or a Fellows?? Not yet forund his birth to send for the cert and found no death for Henry Hall, or a marriage of Emma Hall(Ellis) to a Fellows Joanne

I have a cert where Mr and Mrs Bloggs are recorded as the parents of their daughter. Mr Bloggs had been dead 17 years! Merry

Marriages Sep 1871 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ellis Emma Sheffield 9c 552 Hall Henry Sheffield 9c 552 Jones Caroline Sheffield 9c 552 NEWMAN John Sheffield 9c 552 I suppose you want to know what happened to Henry Hall?? If the above marriage have been BEFORE the 1871 census we might have been able to find out, but at the mo we don't know anything about him! (another £7???) UPDATE - sorry, just noticed you had already seen this!! Merry

If Charlotte was really a Fellows it would make more sense why Wallace and his wife were looking after her, maybe?? Merry

Ah, but if Mrs Hall was actually estranged from her husband, and Charlotte was the dau of Mr Fellows, she might still register the baby with her husband as the father (legally she would have the right to do this - it's part of the marriage contract!).....it's would save all those embarrasing conversations with the registrar! Merry

Now found the marriage of Emma Ellis to Henry Hall in 1871 so Charlotte is without doubt a Hall. Thanks to all who have helped on this one Joanne

Right have today got the cert for Charlotte Hall ( who later becomes a Fellows ) who up until now we always thought was a Fellows and the daughter of my 2x great grandad and his second wife/partner - Emma Hall Right cert says Charlotte Hall - daughter of Emma Hall nee Ellis, Father Henry Hall !! So Charlotte is not a Fellows, Emma was married before to a Hall, Confused?? Me too Emma Hall has led us a merry dance with her kids, changing names and passing them off as Fellows - bad lady Joanne

Right have now ordered the cert for Charlotte Hall ( who later is named Fellows) Hoepfully this will then tell me more about her Mother Emma Hall. I think we can now safely say that my Henry Fellows is the twin brother of Wallace which gives me loads to go out and keep me busy, Once I get the cert I will post an update on it Many thanks again to everyone and especially Merry whom I wouldn't have cracked it without her help Joanne

Thanks all ( and Merry you star) Will be back tomorrow with this one Joanne

Emma and Harry have got to be Fellows, they are the only two mot born in Sheffield. When they first appear in 1881 they are the heads of the household that Emma Hall is living in with them so they can't be Hall's. But then again Charlotte wasn't meant to be a Hall either. Ok won't panic at this point will send for th cert tomorrow and see what is happening, I have a feeling Charlotte is a Hall and nothing to do with Fellows Joanne

Stop panicking!!! Step one....get Charlotte's birth cert and see what games her mum was up to.....was mum really MRS Hall? The cert may tell you. Once you know any previous name for Emma Hall you will be in a better position to find her in the earlier censuses and work forward. I can't see Emma Fellows in 1871 (b 1868) but am not sure where she was born? Brum or Wolverhampton? Anyway.....one step at a time! Merry

OMG Merry you absolute star !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You are amazing!!!!!!!!!! ***** tears of joy******* Over 12 months I have been hunting this one and you do it in one night So Charlotte isn't a real Fellows either, unless they never married and the other older two are Hall's as well and then is why I couldn't spot them. Oh my god please tell me they are real Fellows - My Mum was a Fellows the grand daughter of the son Henry ( harry ) born in 1874, please god don't let us not be Fellows!!! Joanne

I should buy this and see what it says: Name: Charlotte Hall Year of Registration: 1878 Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep District: Sheffield County: South Yorkshire, Yorkshire - West Riding Volume: 9c Page: 437 Merry

Well for the boy called Charley Hall who later becomes a girl called Charlotte Fellows to be in the home of Wallace Fellows in 1881 is a remarkable co-incidence if Wallace and Henry are NOT twins!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Merry

Reg Hva eno way at this stage of telling if Henry the twin of Wallace is mine - all coincidence at this point - Sheffield / Wolverhampton connection and the year of births Joanne

1881 census: Wallas FELLOW Head M Male 32 Birmingham Tin Plate Burnisher Ann FELLOW Wife M Female 34 (British Subject), France Tin Polisher Wallace E. FELLOW Son U Male 13 Birmingham Tin Plate Burnisher (Manuf) Emily FELLOW Daur U Female 9 Sheffd, York, England Scholar >>>>>>>>>> Charley HALL Visitor U Male 2 Sheffd, York, England Bernard GALLAGER Lodger U Male 21 Ireland Tin Plate Worker Patrick WALIN Lodger U Male 37 Ireland Tin Plate Worker Merry

Ah....I get it.....Charley Hall (male lol) aged 2 visitor in the home of Wallace Fellows.....so her mother is Emma Hall???? Merry

No idea for 1881 Charlotte appears later in 1891name Fellows spelt wrong Charlotte Felours Henry, Emma abt 1879 Sheffield, Yorkshire, England Daughter Ecclesfield Yorkshire View Record Emma Felours Henry abt 1850 Sheffield, Yorkshire, England Wife Ecclesfield Yorkshire View Record Frank Felours Henry, Emma abt 1881 Sheffield, Yorkshire, England Son Ecclesfield Yorkshire View Record George A Felours Henry, Emma abt 1891 Sheffield, Yorkshire, England Son Ecclesfield Yorkshire View Record Harry Felours Henry, Emma abt 1874 Birmingham, Warwickshire, England Son Ecclesfield Yorkshire View Record Henry Felours Emma abt 1850 Birmingham, Warwickshire, England Head Ecclesfield Yorkshire View Record Tom Felours Henry, Emma abt 1884 Sheffield, Yorkshire, England Son Ecclesfield Yorkshire