Genealogy Chat

Thanks again Reg, I think I will leave this family at that now and wait until I can get Certs. Thanks to all who have taken the time to lookup things for me.

That's alright Jim....no need to overdo the gratitude Reg

Curiouser and curiouser. It looks like John and Hannah's family, but where is my Elizabeth? And it also would seem that Thomas was the son of one of the daughters, possibly Ann. MY HEAD HURTS! Lol

1841...the image looks to me like Rushforth............. Ann Rueppel abt 1819 Yorkshire, England Barnsley Yorkshire View Record Anna Rueppel abt 1791 Yorkshire, England Barnsley Yorkshire View Record Geo Rueppel abt 1821 Yorkshire, England Barnsley Yorkshire View Record John Rueppel abt 1791 Yorkshire, England Barnsley Yorkshire View Record Martha Rueppel abt 1829 Yorkshire, England Barnsley Yorkshire View Record Robt Rueppel abt 1831 Yorkshire, England Barnsley Yorkshire View Record Thomas Rueppel abt 1835 Yorkshire, England Barnsley Yorkshire View Record Thos Rueppel abt 1839 Yorkshire, England Barnsley Yorkshire A couple of candidates for Thomas's parent.......... Reg

As stated above, Thomas's age is clearly 12.........and, again, as stated, his occupation is a coal miner. So, the query is really only about his surname, and, by definition, his parentage. Reg

He's even less likely to be Martha's son as she would have only been 10. So, something must be wrong. Maybe Thomas's age. If John was previously married I will find out from the Marriage Cert.

The image quite clearly has Thomas as Grandson..........and I would think that to be correct. He is unlikely to be the son of John and Hannah.........their ages rather preclude that possibility. Reg

Hi Reg, Thanks for your help. It certainly is indicating that Martha married John Alderson and had several children. I must assume, for the present, that Thomas was a Rushforth and the brother of Martha and Elizabeth. It will have to wait until I have spare cash to buy the certificates. Thanks again, Jim

Do you have any comments about the Alderson info? Reg

This first entry is a possibility if the 1851 had trhe surname wrong. Births Sep 1838 RUSHFORTH Thomas Ecclesfield 22 122 RUSHFORTH Thomas Leeds 23 409 Births Dec 1839 Rushforth Thomas Bradford 23 87 Rushforth Thomas Bradford 23 123

Hi Grandpa Jim There is a possible marriage on FreeBDM for Martha in Ecclesfield in Sep Qtr 1845 22 / 119. Hope that this helps, Regards Lyn Sorry, just reread this thread & I guess that is the one Linda sent you.

Hi Reg, Thanks for the suggestion, it is always possible. I think I need to apply for their Marriage Cert now that we have a date for it. thanks.

Probably John Alderson in 1841..........no Thomas John Alderson abt 1818 Barnsley Yorkshire View Record Emma Hodgson abt 1838 Yorkshire, England Barnsley Yorkshire View Record Jesse Hodgson abt 1841 Yorkshire, England Barnsley Yorkshire View Record Rachael Hodgson abt 1819 Yorkshire, England Barnsley Yorkshire View Record Joseph Jenwick abt 1820 Barnsley Yorkshire View Record James Lowe abt 1828 Yorkshire, England Barnsley Yorkshire Have you considered the other scenario I suggested? Reg

Linda, It does look very likely. That Thomas is the bugbear. A marriage in 1845 at the age of 16 is unusual but not impossible with children born in 1848 and 1850.

Martha's husband in 1851...........listed as 'married' Name: John Alderson Age: 34 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1817 Relation: Lodger Gender: Male Where born: Cockington, Durham, England Civil parish: Barnsley Ecclesiastical parish: St John Town: Barnsley County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Registration district: Barnsley Sub-registration district: Barnsley ED, institution, or vessel: 3q Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 78 Household Members: Name Age John Alderson 34 John Parkins 64 Ellener Sykes 20 John Sykes 26 Reg

Jim, do you think the marriage I found her could be her? Linda

1861................ Name: John Alderson Age: 43 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1818 Relation: Head Spouses's Name: Martha Gender: Male Where born: Cockerton, Durham, England Civil parish: Barnsley Ecclesiastical parish: St John Town: Barnsley County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Registration district: Barnsley Sub-registration district: Barnsley ED, institution, or vessel: 21 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 39 Household Members: Name Age George Alderson 3 Mo John Alderson 43 John Alderson 8 Margaret Alderson 10 Martha Alderson 33 Mary Ann Alderson 2 William Alderson 14 Reg

I know nothing at all about the Aldersons.. I didn't know about Martha until we checked the 1851.

As Thomas's age is correct......his occ is miner........perhaps he was the son of Martha's husband from a previous marriage. Do you have any info about the husband? The other option is that Thomas's surname was not Alderson.............and the ditto marks were inaccurate Reg

I have Elizabeth's marriage cert and her father is John a Weaver. Thomas Alderson is down as Grandson, born 1839. Possibly that is a wrong date and should be 1849?