Genealogy Chat

I`m sure its them, my Dad and my Aunt seem really sure anyhoo! thanks for helping me mate. It`s nice to know theres people out there who do help each other.

It's Robertsons, not Robinsons! They're now part of Premier Foods - wonder if they kept staff records! Are you sure it's definitely them - do you have proof? If so, we will be able to find them on previous censuses. Don't want to waste time unless we're sure. I see they arrived in Glasgow some time between the birth of Kate and Jane. Here they are in 1891: 1891 Scotland Census Name: Charles Wilson Age: 32 Estimated birth year: abt 1859 Relationship: Head Spouse's name : Catherine Where born: Perth, Perthshire Registration Number: 414 Registration district: Carnock Civil parish: Carnock County: Fife Address: Free Church Manse Occupation: Blacksmith ED: 1 Page: 3 Household schedule number: 20 Line: 1 Roll: CSSCT1891_125 Household Members: Charles Wilson 32 Catherine Wilson 34 Catherine Wilson 5 born Partick, Lanarkshire Jane Wilson 3 born Carnock James Wilson 1 (Must have died before 1901)

Yes its definately them, ooooooh im so excited hehehe and ethel wilson was definately something to do with robinsons jam.

it could be sounds familiar, especially the frederick

Does any of this look likely? 1901 Scotland Census taken 31st March 1901 Name: Ethel Wilson Age: 7 months Estimated birth: August 1900 Where born: Carnock, Fifeshire Registration Number: 414 Registration district: Carnock Civil parish: Carnock County: Fife Address: Smithy House ED: 1 Page: 6 Household schedule number: 24 Line: 12 Roll: CSSCT1901_132 Household Members: Charles Wilson 43 born: Perth, Blacksmith Catherine Wilson 45 born: Kenmore Perthshire Kate Wilson 25 born: Glasgow Apprentice Printer Jane Wilson 13 born: Carnock Charles Wilson 9 born: Carnock Jessie Wilson 5 born: Carnock Ethel Wilson 7 months born: Carnock or this... Name: Frederick George J Wilson Birth Date: 2 Jun 1897 Death Registration Month/Year: Nov 1987 Age at death (estimated): 90 Registration district: Shepway Inferred County: Kent Volume: 16 Page: 1561 The Robertsons Jam factory was at Stevenside Street, Paisley.

Is this her? Name: Ethel Mary Wilson Birth Date: 18 Aug 1900 Death Registration Month/Year: May 1984 Age at death (estimated): 83 Registration district: Shepway Inferred County: Kent Volume: 16 Page: 1438

i have found my other Aunts family tree my Great aunty Elaine was definately born in 1953, thankyou so much for your help, also, She told me that my great grandad on my fathers side was called frederick wilson and my great nan was called ethel wilson and she was a wilson before she was married too, and that she thinks she was something to do with robinsons jam in scotland, perhape even born there.

ethel wilson was born in 1900 and died in 1984

Patricia E Knowles born Jan/Feb/Mar 1931 Elham (2a 1841) Mother's maiden name Smith. Somebody called Kevin has a Patricia Knowles born 1929 Folkestone. Might be worth e-mailing. Don't mind me asking, but Gilbert seems to have taken a 20-year break in fathering children. This is very unusual, so I wonder if he was otherwise occupied during that time... perhaps as a guest of His Majesty?

yes!! thats her now she has a sister call pat rels(married name) i have no idea when she was born, and another sister yvonne thats all the info i have on them both older than her though......... i am forever in your dept.

This is the nearest I could find... Name: Elaine Susan Knowles Birth Date: 9 Sep 1953 Death Registration Month/Year: Oct 2001 Age at death (estimated): 48 Registration district: Thanet With Dover Inferred County: Kent Register number: D6E Entry Number: 62 Could be the one, as there's an Elaine S Knowles born Folkestone July/Aug/Sep 1953 (5b 801) mother's maiden name Smith.

ok i messaged the elaine knowles contact waiting to hear from them, but my aunt said she was born in 1954 so i don`t think its them.

ok hun ty

There's an Elaine Knowles born Folkestone 1935 on GR - can I suggest you do a search on here?

And Elaine was my Great nan`s birthday and not her sister i am sorry, Also could you possibly do a search on my mother diane pauline fletcher, born in devon, around 1957ish she`ll be in her late 40`s early 50`s i think, haven`t been in contact with her for at least 18 years

Elaine was also at least in her 40`s when she died in 98-99

ooh for goodness sake, i meant DAUGHTER!! haha! getting tired now sorry!

Thats them, winifred and gilbert, my aunt could only remember thier names and places she couldn`t remember exact dates, Elaine was definately winifreds daughter maybe born in 1954 because she was only 6 months or so younger/older than my dad.

People with Downs don't usually have a long lifespan. Are you sure that you have the right person? There's no death of an Elaine Knowles in Kent between 1984 and 2005. If you go to the Search Records section in the green panel on the left, you can key in Winifred Smith 1909, born in Kent. Up will come the names of four people: Michael, Brenda, Jonothan and Glyn. They all have her in their trees. If you click on to each of their names you cand send them a message. I suggest that before you press your button to send the first, you copy the text of what you have written so you can send an identical e-mail to each.

Here are some possible hits, but you really must get at least one certificate to verify this information - and cerificates always have extra useful information. Remember, these are very likely your ancestors but not proven without certificates. Gilbert H Knowles married a Smith April/May/Jun 1928 (2a 2798) at Elham. Winifred Ivy Smith married a Knowles April/May/Jun 1928 (2a 2798) at Elham. Death: Winifred Ivy Knowles Birth Date: 7 May 1909 Death Registration Month/Year: Jul 1994 Age at death (estimated): 85 Registration district: Shepway Inferred County: Kent Register number: SSB4 Entry Number: 300 Name: Winifred Ivy Smith Year of Birth Registration: 1909 Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun DISTRICT: East Ashford County: Kent Volume: 2a Page: 958 Name: Gilbert Harold Knowles Year of Birth Registration: 1906 Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep DISTRICT: Winchester County: Hampshire Volume: 2c Page: 131 Notice those names of Winifred and Harold.