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I cannot find any record of birth for the above - he is NOT the Thomas Henry Reeves born 1892 Hastings, mmn Moore. His parents were William Reeves and Sophia, nee Saxby.

I have found his military records on Ancestry, and nowhere is his date of birth recorded, just that he was 18 yrs 7 months in February 1911, and his next of kin was father William Reeves. I've found him in the 1911 census in barracks, but have not found him in the 1901. He was killed in action in India in 1919.

I am able to trace his family, so please don't spend time on them. I am just anxious to find a record of his birth, and him in the 1901. He was not with his parents then.

You super sleuths have helped me so much in the past, I hope you don't mind yet another request.

Many thanks

Have you looked for variants?

UK, WWI, British Army Medal Roll Index Cards, 1914-1920
Full Name Reeves, Thomas
Regiment Royal Sussex Regiment
Regiment Number L/9605


"W Reeves Esq applies for 1915 Star on behalf of his son late Pte T Reeves" 18/11/19

** 14 Stonefield Road, Hastings**

and

REEVES, THOMAS
UK, Soldiers Died in the Great War, 1914-1919

Full Name REEVES, THOMAS
Birth Place ST. CLEMENTS, SUSSEX ************
Nationality British
Resided Place HASTINGS

Erica, yes, but to no avail.

Jink, thank you, I did have some of that information but not all. I have William Reeves at the Stonefield Road address in the 1921 census with second wife Hannah, his wife in 1892 was Sophia Saxby. He was killed in India.

For INFO

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census
100, St Georges Road, Hastings St Mary in the Castle, Hastings, Sussex, England

William H Reeves Head Married Male 42 1859 Gas fitter Brighton, Sussex, England
Sophia Reeves Wife Married Female 41 1860 - Crowhurst, Sussex, England
William T Reeves Son Single Male 17 1884 - Hastings, Sussex, England
Joseph Reeves Son Single Male 11 1890 - Hastings, Sussex, England
Edith Reeves Daughter Single Female 15 1886 - Hastings, Sussex, England
Mabel Reeves Daughter Single Female 9 1892 - Hastings, Sussex, England
Olive Reeves Daughter Single Female 7 1894 - Hastings, Sussex, England
Freddy Reeves Son Single Male 3 1898 - Hastings, Sussex, England
Tom Edmunds Boarder Single Male 36 1865 Bricklayer labourer Hastings, Sussex, England



REEVES, LILIAN CATHERINE NAOMI SAXBY
GRO Reference: 1893 J Quarter in HASTINGS Volume 02B Page 36
REEVES, MABEL EMILY SAXBY
GRO Reference: 1892 M Quarter in HASTINGS Volume 02B Page 28
REEVES, OLIVE SAXBY
GRO Reference: 1894 S Quarter in HASTINGS Volume 02B

REEVES, LILIAN CATHERINE NAOMI 0
GRO Reference: 1893 D Quarter in HASTINGS Volume 02B Page 32

Not entirely sure it would have been possible for another birth to be fitted in between Mabel & Lilian

Mabel's birth is recorded as 1st January on 1939 register

In 1901, the boy would have been no older than 9 years, so not possible for him to be serving anywhere

Within Thomas' service record there is also another Hastings address listed for William

17 Hardwick Road- 1919 date stamped

Erika, thank you, yes I have all that information and I agree that it is difficult to see how he fitted in with Mabel as 1st January 1892. There are letters within the family from Henry sent to his "dear sister", but I'm not sure which sister that refers to. I have tried to find him in the 1901 with grandparents, etc., but no trace. He signed up in February 1911, aged 18 years 7 months. The Thomas born 1982 mmn Moore was registered as Thomas Henry, and I believe he married in 1923 in Hastings.

Jink, thank you, the Hardwick Road address is already known.

I accept that some things just cannot be found, but that doesn't stop me from trying :-)

You may have to accept that he was simply NOT the child of William and Sophie(a).

Lilian's birth is too close to Mabel's to allow for another one in-between................and his was allegedly APRIL/MAY 1892

I know, but it's driving me crazy - William listed as father, and him writing to one of William's daughters as Dear sister.

William could have been his father, but who his mother was may remain unknown.

So he could have been recorded under his mother's name, and later accepted into the Reeves family.

GRO results 1892 Surname Reeves District of Birth Hastings

REEVES, ALBERT HAROLD PHILLIPS
GRO Reference: 1890 M Quarter in HASTINGS Volume 02B Page 37

REEVES, GEOFFREY FREDERICK JOHN YOUNG
GRO Reference: 1894 D Quarter in HASTINGS Volume 02B Page 37

REEVES, JOSEPH THOMAS PAGE
GRO Reference: 1892 M Quarter in HASTINGS Volume 02B Page 20

REEVES, THOMAS HENRY MOORE ***Discounted ******
GRO Reference: 1892 M Quarter in HASTINGS Volume 02B Page 15

REEVES, WILLIAM JAMES PHILLIPS
GRO Reference: 1891 D Quarter in HASTINGS Volume 02B Page 27

Thanks Jinks, I have tried all these searches to no avail. I even tried both of the former surnames of William's second wife, Hannah.

He wasn’t accepted into the family if census records are accurate. He was elsewhere.

He would have been unlikely to have been registered as ‘Reeves’

Yes :-(

Perhaps he got to know the family after Sophia died………….

That's a good point Erika - Sophia died in 1910 Thomas Reeves first appears in the 1911.

Sophia died 1910:

Sophia Reeves
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1837-1915
Name Sophia Reeves
Age 52
Estimated Birth Year abt 1858
Registration Quarter Oct-Nov-Dec
Death Registration Place Hastings, Sussex, United Kingdom
Death Date Dec 1910
Inferred Death Place Sussex, United Kingdom
Volume 2b
Page 18

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