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ERGUSON
ROBERT
MCALISTER
JESSIE
1875
644/12 257
Gorbals

FERGUSON
HUGH
27
MCALISTER
1911
560/ 254
Cathcart (Lanark)

So, NOT the one born c1884.............at least it's one eliminated

1891 for the family above in 1911

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Cavendish Street, Govan, Gorbals, Lanarkshire, Scotland

Robert Ferguson Head Married Male 40 1851 Iron moulder Barrhead, Renfrewshire, Scotland
Jessie Ferguson Wife Married Female 39 1852 - Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland
Isabella Ferguson Daughter - Female 14 1877 Scholar Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland
Robert Ferguson Son - Male 12 1879 Scholar Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland
Charles Ferguson Son - Male 9 1882 Scholar Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland
Hugh Ferguson Son - Male 7 1884 Scholar Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland
Andrew Ferguson Son - Male 3 1888 - Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland
Christina Ferguson Daughter - Female 1 1890 - Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland


and 1901

50, Cavendish Street, Glasgow, Govan, Gorbals, Lanarkshire, Scotland
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Robert Ferguson Head Widower Male 50 1851 Iron moulder Barrhead, Renfrewshire, Scotland
Robert Ferguson Son Single Male 22 1879 Joiner apprentice Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland
Bella Ferguson Daughter Single Female 23 1878 - Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland
Charles Ferguson Son Single Male 19 1882 Butcher Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland
Hugh Ferguson Son Single Male 17 1884 Message boy Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland
Andrew Ferguson Son - Male 13 1888 Message boy Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland
Christina Ferguson Daughter - Female 11 1890 Scholar Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland
Jessie Ferguson Daughter - Female 9 1892 Scholar Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland
William Ferguson Son - Male 2 1899 - Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland

All Hugh Fergusons in Gorbals in 1911

FERGUSON
HUGH
1911
M
59
644/17 22/ 15
Gorbals
Lanark

FERGUSON
HUGH
1911
M
32
644/17 22/ 23
Gorbals
Lanark
Marriage
FERGUSON
HUGH
MUNRO
ESTHER
1910
644/17 394
Gorbals

FERGUSON
HUGH
1911
M
34
644/17 1/ 16
Gorbals
Lanark
Marriage
FERGUSON
HUGH
SMITH
ELIZABETH JANE
1904
560/ 84
Cathcart (Lanark)

FERGUSON
HUGH
1911
M
27
644/17 33/ 19
Gorbals
Lanark
PLUS
FERGUSON
JESSIE
1911
F
19
644/17 33/ 19
Gorbals
Lanark

FERGUSON
LIZZIE
1911
F
5
644/17 33/ 19
Gorbals
Lanark

FERGUSON
ANDREW
1911
M
23
644/17 33/ 19
Gorbals
Lanark

FERGUSON
MAGGIE
1911
F
40
644/17 33/ 19
Gorbals
Lanark

FERGUSON
JOHN
1911
M
7
644/17 33/ 19
Gorbals
Lanark

FERGUSON
WILLIAM
1911
M
12
644/17 33/ 19
Gorbals
Lanark

FERGUSON
MAGGIE
1911
F
8
644/17 33/ 19
Gorbals
Lanark

FERGUSON
ROBERT
1911
M
60
644/17 33/ 19
Gorbals
Lanark

FERGUSON
JAMES
1911
M
1
644/17 33/ 19
Gorbals
Lanark

FERGUSON
CHRISTINA
1911
F
21
644/17 33/ 19
Gorbals
Lanark



FERGUSON
HUGH
1911
M
40
644/17 51/ 8
Gorbals
Lanark
Family
FERGUSON
CHRISTINA G
1911
F
20
644/17 51/ 8
Gorbals
Lanark


FERGUSON
ELIZABETH
1911
F
41
644/17 51/ 8
Gorbals
Lanark

???

FERGUSON
JAMES
M
1927
644/17 72
Gorbals


FERGUSON
JAMES
0
RYDER
1927
644/17 223
Gorbals


FERGUSON
HUGH
M
1925
644/17 1422
Gorbals

FERGUSON
HUGH
50
RYDER
1976
611/ 68
Glasgow, Martha St

Alviegal suggested a Gwendoline May 1925-2005.

Not a daughter of Hugh and Annie.

Death listed under both Ferguson and Finch.
Finch was her maiden name - born Totnes 1925.
Married Brendon Ferguson in Totnes in 1943.

Her sister Kathleen May also died in Ayr, in 2011, having married James Grace in Totnes in 1948.

Wasn’t aware of that - talk about profiteering!

Unfortunately, Annie's death cert will only give you access to Annie's entry on the Scottish 1939 Register - at a cost of £15 plus £1.14 postage, over and above the 6 credits for the death cert..

You won't receive any details of anyone else in the household.
You have to apply separately for each person you want to know about, paying the fee each time.

"Please be aware that due to the fact that this register is more modern than the Scottish census, which is closed for a 100 year period, it is only possible to provide limited information on the named individual; namely their address in 1939, marital status, age and occupation."
https://www.nrscotland.gov.uk/statistics-and-data/nhs-central-register/about-the-register/1939-national-identity-register-and-how-to-order-an-official-extract

Not research-friendly!

Deaths referred to above...............MMN Ryder
FERGUSON
MARGARET
72
RYDER
1996
680/ 483
Ayr


FERGUSON
GWENDOLINE MAY
80
RYDER
2005
680/ 285
Ayr

If you obtain this cert, you'll have the necessary info to request access to 1939

FERGUSON
ANNIE
65
1956
644/10 222
Govan

KITTREDGE
ANNIE
65
1956
644/10 222
Govan

RYDER
ANNIE
65
1956
644/10 222
Govan

I'm not sure but I do know a few of Robert's siblings moved to Ayr. I will look this up, thank you

Was there a daughter Margaret Ferguson b 1924 d 1996 Ayr married Feeney/ Kelly/ Martin/ Smith and a Gwendoline May b 1925 d 2005 Ayr married Finch?

Your only chance of accurately finding Hugh’s antecedents will be from his death cert

FERGUSON
CATHERINE
69
RYDER
1981
680/ 764
Ayr

KITTREDGE
CATHERINE
69
RYDER
1981
680/ 764
Ayr

PETTICREW
CATHERINE
69
RYDER
1981
680/ 764
Ayr



FERGUSON
HUGHINA
81
RYDER
2001
680/ 486
Ayr

KITTREDGE
HUGHINA
81
RYDER
2001
680/ 486
Ayr

BROWN
HUGHINA
81
RYDER
2001
680/ 486
Ayr

REILLY
HUGHINA
81
RYDER
2001
680/ 486
Ayr

Travelling home with Mary, child and Annie, infant?

Name: Annie Kittredge
Port of Departure: Boston, Massachusetts, USA
Arrival Date: 12 Oct 1911
Port of Arrival: Liverpool, England and Queenstown, Ireland
Ports of Voyage: Boston
Ship Name: Cymric
Shipping Line: White Star Dominion Line
Official Number: 106898





Name: Annie Kittredge
Birth Date: 1911
Birth Place: Clinton, Massachusetts, USA
Father: Kittredge

Father Patrick and mother Anne Ryder. Born 11 Jan 1911.


Name: Mary E Kittredge
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 29 Dec 1909
Birth Place: Clinton, Massachusetts, USA
Father: Patrick Kittredge
Mother: Annie Ryder

Yes

Thank you this is amazing, so when it's a Catholic baptism are the names usually changed/Latinised?

As stated earlier, the baptism record for Hughina records m s (Maiden surname) Ryder

Census Years1911MayoLouisburgFallduffResidents of a house

Residents of a house 30 in Fallduff (Louisburg, Mayo)
Show all information
Surname Forename Age Sex Relation to head Religion Birthplace Occupation Literacy Irish Language Marital Status Specified Illnesses Years Married Children Born Children Living
Ryder John 68 Male Head of Family Catholic Co Mayo Black Smyth Cannot write Irish and E Married - 41 - -
Ryder Bridget 59 Female Wife Catholic Co Mayo - Cannot write I and E Married - 41 12 12
Ryder John 20 Male Son Catholic Co Mayo Labourer Read and write - Single - - - -
Ryder Kate 16 Female Daughter Catholic Co Mayo House Keeper Read and write - Single - - - -
Ryder Austin 14 Male Son Catholic Co Mayo Scholar Read and write - Single - - - -
Ryder Thomas 12 Male Son Catholic Co Mayo Scholar Read and write - Single - - - -
Ryder Bridget 10 Female Daughter Catholic Co Mayo Scholar Read and write - Single - - - -
Ryder Peter 8 Male Son Catholic Co Mayo Scholar Read and write - Single - - - -

in the Web: Ireland, Census, 1901

Name: Annie Ryder
Gender: Female
Marital Status: Single
Age: 12
Birth Date: abt 1889
Birth Place: Co Mayo
Residence Date: 31 Mar 1901
House Number: 39
Residence Place: Fallduff, Louisburgh, Mayo, Ireland
Relation to Head: Daughter
Occupation: Scholar
Religion: Roman Catholic
Literacy: Read and write
Household Members Age Relationship
John Ryder
53 Head of Family (Head)
Bridget Ryder
45 Wife
Patrick Ryder
20 Son
Margaret Ryder
16 Daughter
James Ryder
14 Son
Annie Ryder 12 Daughter
John Ryder
10 Son
Mary Ryder
8 Daughter
Kate Ryder
7 Daughter
Austin Ryder
6 Son
Thomas Ryder
5 Son
Bridget Ryder
2 Daughter


Name: Anne Ryder
Baptism Date: 1889
Baptism Place: Louisburgh, Mayo, Ireland
Father:
John Ryder
Mother:
Bridget Currigan

in the 1910 United States Federal Census

Name: Patrick Kittredge [Patrick Kittridge]
Age in 1910: 24
Birth Date: 1886 [1886]
Birthplace: Ireland
Home in 1910: Clinton, Worcester, Massachusetts, USA
Street: Sterling Street
House Number: 263
Race: White
Gender: Male
Immigration Year: 1905
Relation to Head of House: Head
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: Annie Kittredge
Father's Birthplace: Ireland
Mother's Birthplace: Ireland
Native Tongue: English
Occupation: Weaver
Industry: Wire Cloth Mill
Employer, Employee or Other: Wage Earner
Home Owned or Rented: Rent
Farm or House: House
Naturalization Status: Alien
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Years Married: 1
Out of Work: N
Number of Weeks Out of Work: 0
Neighbors:
Household Members Age Relationship
Patrick Kittredge 24 Head
Annie Kittredge
20 Wife
Mary E Kittredge
0 Daughter

Name: Mary E Kittredge [Mary E Kittridge]
Age in 1910: 0 [3/12]
Birth Date: 1910 [1910]
Birthplace: Massachusetts