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I have Nat V Dobbs b 1903 and a brother Cecil F Dobbs b 1907 .

Now they are on the 1911 census with parents Alice E Nobbs b1875 and father William S Nobbs b 1866 Depwade Norfolk.

But I am looking for marriages and deaths but the strangest thing is I cannot see either of these children's births. I have looked on Famsearch.org , FreeBMD and on Genes but there is no trace of births or deaths??
Any suggestions please?

Florence in the hebrides

How can the children be DOBBS if the parents are NOBBS?

Try looking for NOBBS - the births are on freebmd….

Sorrry it is Nobbs. I have looked but nothing comes up, hence im asking for help!

Right tried searching on just Nat and yes it comes up. There are 2 entries! But tried that with just cecil and nothing or am i blind?

Put in NOBBS and select Suffolk and the year.

Ah well, found it but its put as Ceril not Cecil as on the census!! Cant trace a marriage or death but now will search with Ceril! No death or marriage for Nat that i can see .

Thanks anyway.

1911 for our reference:

Alice E Nobbs
in the 1911 England Census
Name: Alice E Nobbs
Age in 1911: 36
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1875
Relation to Head: Wife
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Wissett, Suffolk
Civil Parish: Brockdish and Rushall
Country: England
Street Address: Langmere Road, Rushall, Scole, Norfolk
Marital status: Married
Years Married: 17
Estimated Marriage Year: 1894
Registration District Number: 230
Sub-registration District: Harleston
ED, institution, or vessel: 03
Piece: 11428
Household Members:
Name Age
William S Nobbs 45
Alice E Nobbs 36
William S Nobbs 16
Babara A Nobbs 13
Thomas B Nobbs 11
Nat V Nobbs 8
Ceril F Nobbs 4
Hilda N Nobbs 9/12


Hilda's full name:

NOBBS, HILDA NORA OLIVE mmn MOORE
GRO Reference: 1910 S Quarter in DEPWADE Volume 04B Page 194



Ancestry suggests this is Nat:

Victor Nat Nobbs
in the Canada, Find a Grave Index, 1600s-Current
Name: Victor Nat Nobbs
Birth Date: 20 Nov 1902
Death Date: 31 Mar 1999
Cemetery: Rolla Community Cemetery
Burial or Cremation Place: Rolla, Peace River Regional District, British Columbia, Canada


Victor Nobbs
in the UK and Ireland, Outward Passenger Lists, 1890-1960
Name: Victor Nobbs
Gender: Male
Departure Age: 20
Birth Date: abt 1903
Departure Date: 30 Aug 1923
Departure Port: England
Ship Name: Melita
Shipping Line: Canadian Pacific Railway
Destination Port: Quebec, Canada

Travelling with Hilda (13) and Frank (16).

Last UK address: 32 St Peters Road, South Lowestoft.


Hilda N O Nobbs
in the U.S., Index to Alien Arrivals at Canadian Atlantic and Pacific Seaports, 1904-1944
Name: Hilda N O Nobbs
Age: 13
Birth Year: abt 1910
Arrival Year: 1923
Arrival Country: USA


Hilda N C Nobbs
in the Canada, Ocean Arrivals (Form 30A), 1919-1924
Name: Hilda N C Nobbs [ Hilda N O Nobbs on image ]
Gender: Female
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1910
Birth Place: England
Age: 13
Object in going to Canada: "with parents".
Going to brother W S Nobbs, Leamsford (?), Saskatchewan.
Date of Arrival: Aug 1923
Port of Arrival: Quebec
Port of Departure: Lowestoft, England
Ship Name: Melita


Can't see her marriage, but I assume this is her death:

Hilda Nora Olive Rose
in the Canada, Find a Grave Index, 1600s-Current
Name: Hilda Nora Olive Rose
Birth Date: 16 Jun 1910
Birth Place: Waveney District, Suffolk, England
Death Date: 5 Jan 2016
Death Place: Leader, Swift Current Census Division, Saskatchewan, Canada
Cemetery: Lancer Cemetery
Burial or Cremation Place: Lancer, Swift Current Census Division, Saskatchewan, Canada
Has Bio?: Y
Spouse: Philander Samuel Rose


[Not sure I would marry someone called Philander! ]

Brother William Samuel emigrated in 1914:

William S Nobbs
in the Canada, Incoming Passenger Lists, 1865-1935
Name: William S Nobbs
Gender: Male
Arrival Age: 19
Birth Year: abt 1895
Departure Port: Liverpool, England
Arrival Date: 28 Mar 1914
Arrival Port: Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada
Vessel: Empress of Ireland


William Samuel Nobbs
in the Canada, World War I CEF Attestation Papers, 1914-1918
Name: William Samuel Nobbs
Age: 20
Birth Date: 8 Jul 1894
Birth Location: Lowestoft, Suffolk, England
Residence: Lemsford, Saskatchewan
Military Date: 1914-1918
Mother:
Alice E Nobbs
Next of Kin: Mrs Alice E Nobbs
Next of Kin Relationship: Mother
Regiment Number: 257454


William S. Nobbs
in the Canada, Find a Grave Index, 1600s-Current
Name: William S. Nobbs
Gender: Male
Birth Date: Jul 1894
Death Date: Mar 1975
Cemetery: Portreeve Memorial Cemetery
Burial or Cremation Place: Portreeve, Swift Current Census Division, Saskatchewan, Canada
Spouse: Ellen Nobbs
Children: Mary Nobbs

The brother Frank who emigrated with Nat and Hilda is Ceril:

NOBBS, CERIL FRANK SHAWLING mmn MOORE
GRO Reference: 1907 M Quarter in PLOMESGATE Volume 04A Page 1085


Frank Cyril Nobbs
in the Canada, Ocean Arrivals (Form 30A), 1919-1924
Name: Frank Cyril Nobbs
Gender: Male
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1907
Birth Place: England
Age: 16
Date of Arrival: 1923
Port of Departure: Lowestoft, England
Ship Name: Melita


???
Frank C Nobbs
in the Canada, Find a Grave Index, 1600s-Current
Name: Frank C Nobbs
Birth Date: 1906
Death Date: 1991
Cemetery: Mount Ida Cemetery
Burial or Cremation Place: Salmon Arm, Columbia-Shuswap Regional District, British Columbia, Canada


Frank Cyril Nobbs
in the Canada, Newspapers.com Obituary Index, 1800s-current
Name: Frank Cyril Nobbs
Gender: Male
Death Age: 84
Birth Date: 19 Nov 1906
Residence Place: Salmon Arm
Death Date: 18 Sep 1991
Burial Place: Lostoft England
Obituary Date: 25 Sep 1991
Obituary Place: Salmon Arm, British Columbia, Canada
Newspaper Title: Salmon Arm Observer
Spouse: Bertha
Child:
Frances Teixeira
Lyle Nobbs
Bruce Nobbs
Siblings:
Victor, Hilda Rose



Bertha A Nobbs
in the Canada, Find a Grave Index, 1600s-Current
Name: Bertha A Nobbs
Birth Date: 1909
Death Date: 1992
Cemetery: Mount Ida Cemetery
Burial or Cremation Place: Salmon Arm, Columbia-Shuswap Regional District, British Columbia, Canada


Frank Cyril Nobbs
in the British Columbia, Canada, Marriage Index, 1872-1935
Name: Frank Cyril Nobbs
Gender: Male
Spouse Name: Agnes Kellar
Spouse Gender: Female
Marriage Date: 22 Apr 1934
Marriage Location: Dawson Creek
Registration Number: 1934-09-421229
BCA Number: B13768
GSU Number: 2135987

Be flexible in your thinking when doing FH research

Mother Alice and sister Barbara also emigrated with Frank, Nat, and Hilda - they're on the page before Nat etc's record already posted:

Alice Eliza Nobbs
in the Canada, Ocean Arrivals (Form 30A), 1919-1924
Name: Alice Eliza Nobbs
Gender: Female
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1874
Birth Place: Wessett Suffolk
Age: 49
Date of Arrival: May 1923
Port of Arrival: Quebec
Port of Departure: Lowestoft, England
Ship Name: Melita


I don't see any emigration record for the father William Samuel.

Perhaps he stayed in England?

NOBBS, WILLIAM SAMUEL 73
GRO Reference: 1938 J Quarter in LOTHINGLAND Volume 04A Page 1233

Nat in 1921 - with Alice, Barbara , Frank and Hilda:

Victor
Nobbs
1902
Stoven, Suffolk, England
Lowestoft
Mutford
Suffolk

Probably the father William in 1921:

William
Nobbs
1865
—
Lowestoft
Mutford
Suffolk

He's listed with a John, an Annie and 36 others - in an institution of some kind??

The other brother on the 1911 census, Thomas, also emigrated to Canada:

Thomas B Nobbs
in the Canada, Incoming Passenger Lists, 1865-1935
Name: Thomas B Nobbs
Gender: Male
Arrival Age: 20
Birth Year: abt 1900
Departure Port: Antwerp, Belgium and Southampton, England
Arrival Date: 21 Jul 1920
Arrival Port: Quebec, Canada
Vessel: Scandinavian

He was going to his brother in Lensford, Saskatchewan .
NOK in UK - mother, Alice Nobbs, 32 St Peters Road, Lowestoft.


Thomas Bernard Nobbs
in the UK, Royal Navy Registers of Seamen's Services, 1848-1939
Name: Thomas Bernard Nobbs
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 4 Sep 1899
Birth Place: Blything Suffolk
First Service Date: 9 Oct 1917
First Ship Served On: Pembroke IV
Last Service Date: 1 May 1919
Last Ship Served On: Cinceria
Service Number: K46398



Thomas B Nobbs
in the Saskatchewan, Canada, Cemetery Transcripts, 1850-1994
Name: Thomas B Nobbs
Age: 68
Birth Date: 1889
Death Date: 1957
Burial Year: 1957
Burial Place: Saskatchewan, Canada
Cemetery: Lemsford



Thomas Nobbs
in the 1921 Census of Canada
Name: Thomas Nobbs
Gender: Male
Racial or Tribal Origin: English
Nationality: Canada
Marital Status: Single
Age: 25
Birth Year: abt 1896
Birth Place: England
Year of Immigration: 1917
Residence Date: 1 Jun 1921
House Number: 111
Residence Street or Township: 23
Residence City, Town or Village: Municipality of Clinworth
Residence District: Maple Creek
Residence Province or Territory: Saskatchewan
Residence Country: Canada
Relation to Head of House: Brother
Father Birth Place: England
Mother Birth Place: England
Can Speak English?: Yes
Can Speak French?: No
Other Language: None
Religion: Episcopal
Can Read?: Yes
Can Write?: Yes
Months at School: 00-00
Occupation: Farmer
Employment Type: 3 Own Account
Nature of Work: Own Farm B
Section: 6
Range Number: 22
Meridian Number: 3
Municipality: Clinworth
Enumeration District: 220
Sub-District Number: 64
Enumerator: W. W. Magee
District Description: Townships 21, 22, 23 and 24 , whole or fractional, in range 22, west of the third Meridian, and south of the South of Saskatchewan River
Neighbors:
Line Number: 1
Family Number: 111
Household Members Age Relationship
William Nobbs27 Head
Thomas Nobbs 25 Brother


Thomas B Nobbs
in the Canada, Voters Lists, 1935-1980
Name: Thomas B Nobbs
Residence Date: 1945
Residence Place: Swift Current, Saskatchewan, Canada
Street Address: Lemsford
Electoral District: Swift Current
Occupation: Farmer
Reference Number: M-4831

ArgyllGran, thankyou so much for all this info. I really do appreciate it but tell me how did you access the passenger lists ? Do you need to subscribe to a special site?

It had crossed my mind that they maybe emigrated but had no idea how to access that info.

Thanks again
Much appreciated

Florence in the hebrides

You're welcome, Florence.

Everything I've posted, including the passenger lists, is from Ancestry - although I've posted a few births and deaths from the GRO site for the sake of having middle names in full, instead of just initials as on Ancestry or FreeBMD..

Ah I dont have Ancestry membership. i always seem to forget the GRO for searching unless im ordering certs. I shall have to remind myself to try there too.
Thanks

You can sometimes find records on Family Search, especially immigration landing information for Canada.

I will remember that Sylvia,thankyou