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HELP NEEDED! BIRTH DETAILS OF ELIZA HOLMES

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Sarah

Sarah Report 1 Jun 2022 10:33

Thanks for all the info!
This family is correct as Beatrice Turton was my Great Grandmother.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 1 Jun 2022 10:08

1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Road To Kings Mills, Weston on Trent, Shardlow, Derbyshire, England

John Holmes Head Married Male 29 1832 Thrashing machine lab Kegworth, Leicestershire, England
Mary Holmes Wife Married Female 27 1834 Labs wife Sandiacre, Derbyshire, England
Mary A Holmes Daughter - Female 6 1855 - Derbyshire, England
John Holmes Son - Male 4 1857 - Derbyshire, England
Eliza Holmes Daughter - Female 2 1859 - Weston on Trent, Derbyshire, England
Catherine Holmes Daughter - Female 0 1861 - Weston on Trent, Derbyshire, England



HOLMES, ELIZA MOUSLEY
GRO Reference: 1859 M Quarter in SHARDLOW Volume 07B Page 341

HOLMES, MARY ANN MOUSLEY
GRO Reference: 1855 M Quarter in BASFORD Volume 07B Page 102

HOLMES, JOHN MONSLEY
GRO Reference: 1857 M Quarter in BASFORD Volume 07B Page 112

HOLMES, CATHERINE MOUSLEY
GRO Reference: 1860 D Quarter in SHARDLOW Volume 07B Page 327

Marriages Jun 1854 (>99%)
Holmes John Basford 7b 182
Mousley Mary Basford 7b 182

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 1 Jun 2022 10:03

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Castle Gresley, Burton upon Trent, Derbyshire, England

Thomas Turton Head Married Male 43 1848 Musician Castle Gresley, Derbyshire, England
Eliza Turton Wife Married Female 32 1859 - Weston, Derbyshire, England
Thomas Turton Son Single Male 9 1882 - Derbyshire, England
Maud Turton Daughter - Female 7 1884 - Derbyshire, England
John Turton Son - Male 5 1886 - Derbyshire, England
Charles Turton Son - Male 3 1888 - Derbyshire, England
Elizabeth Turton Daughter - Female 1 1890 - Derbyshire, England

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census
4, Bass Row, Castle Gresley, Castle Gresley (Derby), Burton upon Trent, Derbyshire, England

Eliza Turton Head Widow Female 43 1858 - Weston on Trent, Derbyshire, England
Thomas Turton Son Single Male 19 1882 Coal miner loader below gd Castle Gresley, Derbyshire, England
Maud Turton Daughter Single Female 17 1884 Encaustic tile works presser Castle Gresley, Derbyshire, England
John Turton Son Single Male 15 1886 Colly horse driver below g Castle Gresley, Derbyshire, England
Charles Turton Son Single Male 13 1888 Colly horse driver below g Castle Gresley, Derbyshire, England
Elizabeth Turton Daughter Single Female 11 1890 - Castle Gresley, Derbyshire, England
Joseph Turton Son Single Male 9 1892 - Castle Gresley, Derbyshire, England
Lily Turton Daughter Single Female 7 1894 - Castle Gresley, Derbyshire, England
Beatrice Turton Daughter Single Female 5 1896 - Castle Gresley, Derbyshire, England
Emily K Turton Daughter Single Female 2 1899 - Castle Gresley, Derbyshire, England
Thomas Lockley Boarder Single Male 20 1881 Coal miner loader below gd Hednesford, Staffordshire, England

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 1 Jun 2022 09:54

The post-marriage census records tell a different tale.


How did you work back to this woman?

nameslessone

nameslessone Report 31 May 2022 21:05

According to the free website www.freebmd.org.uk there is an Eliza Jane Holmes registered in the Ashby de la Zouch district in the 3rd quarter of 1858. The certificate can also purchased from the GRO.

Edit: there seems to be more than one Eliza Holmes. On the assumption that you have worked back to that marriage then you need the certificate as suggested by Erika to confirm her fathers name and occupation.

Sarah

Sarah Report 31 May 2022 20:57

She was born 1858 in the Ashby de la Zouch district

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 31 May 2022 20:01

1861 possible entry with father John, mother Mary, and a few siblings

2-3 possible births on freebmd. Shardlow is the relevant registration district

Look at the GRO site - FREE - for MMN - then cross-refer with possible marriages.

BUT………marriage cert needed for confirmation of father’s name. OR check births of siblings for verification of MMN

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 31 May 2022 19:52

Marriage OND 1881 Burton on Trent district…..

1891 census says birth was in Weston, Derbyshire

Look for her in the 1881 census…..free on familysearch website

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 31 May 2022 19:51

If she knew her father, he will be named on her marriage cert

What research have you done so far yourself?
Have you searched freebmd to find whether her birth was even registered?

Sarah

Sarah Report 31 May 2022 19:43

Hi,
I hope someone can help me find more information on Eliza Holmes born C 1858 Ashby de la Zouch area?
She married Thomas Turton and died in 1921, buried at Linton church, Derbyshire.
I would like to find out where she was born and who her family was…
Any information would be very greatly received!
Thanks