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All the info the helpers have found is on the following sites, which your uncle's sons can access for themselves if they wish to verify what has been found and possibly investigate further back in their family tree.

https://www.freebmd.org.uk/search - free to use, as the name implies. (English/Welsh records only)

https://www.ancestry.co.uk - a subscription site (coverage depends on level of sub).
and/or
https://www.findmypast.co.uk - ditto

https://www.gro.gov.uk - free to use, though you have to register. (English/Welsh records)

For someone with no previous experience of family tree research, it seems daunting, and hard to know where to begin.
All the helpers were in that position once - but look at us now!

Thank you all so much, I have emailed some of the details to my uncle Robert Prouse to his oldest son of his 2nd marriage and he’s going to talk to his brother about it but as ask my to say thank you from them. They live in Canada so finding anything is hard as they didn’t know anything.
Paula Learmouth

Thank you for all help, I will look into what has been added. It’s been the hardest part of the family tree as I’ve managed with everything apart from this ( my uncle Robert). With all the family no longer being with us I’ve had nobody to ask and only having a few details. Even finding details of his first wife and daughters was hard with not having details and not remembering them.

Name: Louisa Prouse
Registration Date: Jul 1948
[Aug 1948]
[Sep 1948]
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration District: Newcastle upon Tyne
Inferred County: Northumberland
Spouse: William Sykes
Volume Number: 1b
Page Number: 323


Marriages Dec 1954
Lloyd David Sykes Newcastle T. 1b 163
Sykes Louisa Lloyd Newcastle T. 1b 163


Death

Name: Louisa Lloyd
Death Age: 77
Birth Date: 1 Nov 1908
Registration Date: Apr 1986
Registration District: Newcastle Upon Tyne
Inferred County: Tyne and Wear
Volume: 2
Page: 314

Eli Joseph Prouse (the father in 1911) married Alice Elliott in Whitby district in 1900

Editing of above post matches my finding

Wonder on this birth

PROUSE, LOUIE ELLIOTT
GRO Reference: 1908 D Quarter in AUCKLAND Volume 10A Page 244

It’s found as female on the gro

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Name: Eli J Prouse
Age in 1911: 32
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1879
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Marske, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: Collierley
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Country: England
Street Address: 34 Annfield Plain Annfield Plain Co Durham
Marital status: Married
Occupation: Coal Miner
Registration District Number: 550
Sub-registration District: Tanfield
ED, institution, or vessel: 20
Piece: 29871
Household Members:
Name Age
Eli J Prouse 32
Alice Prouse 32
Mary Prouse 10
Edward Prouse 6
Florance Prouse 4
Louise Prouse 2
Gladys Prouse 1

Marriage
Name: Eli Joseph Prouse
Registration Year: 1900
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Registration District: Whitby
Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
Inferred County: Yorkshire North Riding
Volume: 9d
Page: 879
Records on Page:
Name
Alice Elliott

Births Dec 1907
Farquhar Charlotte Whyte Preston S. Shields 10a 846

Only one Louise Prouse in N E England in 1921. Born c1908

The ‘grandparents’ are the poster’s. And presumably NOT the ones I took the trouble to find, as the poster isn’t the person whose name is on the account

The Storey family is irrelevant to the actual enquiry

Was pmd with the info from Paula and sent loads of replies

1938 reg

His marriage and two girls born and their marriages

The birth and death of the first wife

All to recent to post on here

So lots of info sent !


He was living with Robert Storey and wife Caroline in 1939 and is an open record

However both Robert and Caroline were born 1907 so can’t have been grandparents of Louisa Prouse


Marriage

Marriages Mar 1929
Farquhar Charlotte W Storey Tynemouth 10b 280
Storey Robert Farquhar Tynemouth 10b 280

Hi, the details I have are ( sorry about the misunderstanding I’m Andrews wife Paula and it’s me who’s doing the tree now as Andrew is no longer with his)

George Robert Prouse 1931-1988 (he was known as Robert Storey Prouseto anyone that new him, he died in Victoria Canada)
His mothers name was
Louise Prouse She worked at red house farm Whitley Bay Northumberland (it’s now Tyne and Wear)
I know he was married and Divorced in this country and had 2 girls. I do know his first wife was taken and stay for a period of time in Morpeth mental hospital
He then went to Canada where he married and had 2 boys it’s his boys that want to know about their dad and sisters if possible)
This is the only information I have

The other side of the family:

Marriages Jun 1927 (>99%)
Bough Thomas O Gardner Newcastle T. 10b 326
GARDNER Wilhelmina Bough Newcastle T. 10b 326


Thomas O Bough
in the 1939 England and Wales Register
Name: Thomas O Bough
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Married
Birth Date: 30 Apr 1899
Residence Date: 1939
Address: 41 Avon Crescent
Residence Place: Houghton-Le-Spring, Durham, England
Occupation: Colliery Surface Worker Heavy Worker
Line Number: 3
Schedule Number: 59
Sub Schedule Number: 1
Enumeration District: Fftj
Borough: Houghton-Le-Spring
Registration district: 554-1
Inferred Spouse:
Wilhelmina Bough
Household Members Age
Thomas O Bough 40
Wilhelmina Bough 32
This record is officially closed.

The closed record might be their daughter born 1928.
She married in 1950.
Probably her death:

BARRASS, MARY EVELYN 1927
GRO Reference: DOR Q4/2012 in SUNDERLAND (058-1B) Entry Number 507463967


However, this is no help with Andrew's question.
Andrew hasn't replied on his thread. I wonder if he has tried any of the things suggested.

1939 Register
Loraine House, Ryton U. D., Ryton U. D., Durham, England
George Leanmouth 29 Aug 1895 Male Miner Rolleyway Man Married 7 1
Minnie Leanmouth 04 Jul 1902 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 7 2
Bert Gates 17 Sep 1907 Male Barber Married 7 3

Births Dec 1939 (>99%)
Learmouth George K Forster Durham N.W. 10a 664

LEARMOUTH, GEORGE KENNETH 1939
GRO Reference: DOR Q2/2015 in NORTHUMBERLAND (681-1A) Entry Number 511916818

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Marriages Dec 1932 (>99%)
Bell George Forster Gateshead 10a 1937
Forster Minnie Bell Gateshead 10a 1937

Marriages Dec 1938 (>99%)
Bell Minnie Learmouth Durham N.W. 10a 635
Learmouth George Bell Durham N.W. 10a 635

LEARMOUTH, MINNIE 1902
GRO Reference: DOR Q2/1996 in NORTHUMBERLAND WEST (6802) Reg 8 Entry Number 284

One side of the family

1939 Register
41 Avon Crescent, Chilton Moor, Houghton-Le-Spring U.D., Durham, England
Thomas O Bough 20 Apr 1898 Male Colliery Surface Worker Married 59 1
Wilhelmina Bough 08 Jun 1907 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 59 2
1 closed record (possibly a daughter born 1928)

Marriages Jun 1927 (>99%)
Bough Thomas O Gardner Newcastle T. 10b 326
GARDNER Wilhelmina Bough Newcastle T. 10b 326

Does this refer to the UK?

EDITED 13/03

Yes - Co Durham in the 1930's/40's

You know his mums name but what I was suggesting is locating her with her family to see if she had any siblings

Plus presume grandparents have passed so locating their deaths may help with who the informants were etc

You may have to go around in circles to narrow down the search

Andrew knows the mother's name according to his post. Look to see if you can find a marriage for her name in the area where she worked. You could also look at electoral registers to see if you can find her. Did she have any contact with him after handing him to your grandmother?

Kath. x

If his name wasn’t changed then his birth certificate will give his mums name

Try Freebmd

If you want any help then his name and date of birth plus his grandparents names will help

Hi, my grandmother took on my uncle when he was born, but it was through adoption, my uncles mother just gave him to my grandmother. My grandmother kept his name even his mothers surname and growing up he always knew. When he passed away his sons ask if I could help and try and find his mother but that’s when it got hard. I know his mothers name where she worked at the time but I can’t find anything about her at all. Any ideas on where to look or how to find any detail would be great, thank you