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Have submitted a correction on FMP for the birth year

Thank you for the clarification ArgyllGran

Ancestry's version of 1939:

Noel A J Thompson
in the 1939 England and Wales Register
Name: Noel A J Thompson
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Married
Birth Date: 24 Dec 1912 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Residence Date: 1939
Address: 39
Residence Place: Bromley, Kent, England
Occupation: Coal Wharf Foreman
Line Number: 13
Schedule Number: 87
Sub Schedule Number: 1
Enumeration District: CJMG
Borough: Bromley
Registration district: 42.1
Inferred Spouse:
Joyce M Thompson
Household Members Age
Noel A J Thompson 27
Joyce M Thompson 23

I can see the reason for the mistranscription 1872 on FMP.
There's an ink mark beside the 1, which does make it look a bit like 7.

I met her in the 50's when I was quite young. At the time she was living with another of her Aunts, presumably following her divorce. As a child I always thought she seemed a bit strange, and as I mentioned earlier it was said she spent some time in a 'lunatic asylum'.
I grew up thinking of Annie May as my grandmother and Alf Marsh I always called Uncle Alf. As an adult I found out Annie May wasn't my Dad's birth mother, and Alf was called Uncle Alf as my Dad refused to think of him as my grandfather. I have a feeling he didn't approve of his 'Mum's' second marriage.

Interesting the date of birth of Noel in 1939 as I thought I had found his death in 1985, born 24 Dec1912 on Freebmd :-(

She was calling herself Joyce in 1939

Maybe she didn’t like the name May!

1939 Register
39 Elmfield Road, Bromley, Bromley M.B., Kent, England
First name(s) Last name(s) Birth date Sex Occupation Marital status Schedule Schedule sub number
Noel A J Thompson 24 Dec 1872 Male Coal Wharf Foreman Married 87 1
Joyce M Thompson 29 Jul 1916 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 87 2


He was a lot older than her too !


The 1939 register doesn’t pick up the marsh marriage

Hi Shirley

Yes I found first marriage, thank you

Born 1916 May J King 1921 census shown as May J King
Married Thomspon 1937 as May J King
Married Marsh 1969 as Joyce M, Thompson and one of the witnesses was a King (her brother)
Joyce May Marsh died 1981

Complicated

So she remarried under maiden name ?

Did you find her first marriage?

Shirley, I had tried freebmd with married surname for spouse and Christian name ::-)
Have managed to crack it though
Complicated.
The lady in question cared for her Aunt Annie May, Shortly after her Aunt died the lady married her late Aunt's husband..
On the marriage certificate she is shown as Joyce M Thompson and her age led me to a date of birth, 1916. She is also shown as Joyce, niece, in the newspaper cutting that I have of the funeral of Annie May's first husband
Annie May had 5 sisters, none of them had a daughter registered as Joyce M but there was a May J born 1916. One of the witnesses shares the same surname and appears to be her brother, and the fathers name now makes sense :-) She is also shown on the 1921 census as May Joyce, so pretty conclusive
(told you it was complicated) lol

btw my subscription ends this weekend so I may not get back to you but thanks to everyone for their interest and help

If she isn’t alive post the marriage and you may find that people on here can help
One assumes she isn’t, or you’d be able to ask her ;-) ;-)

How old was she on the remarriage

You may be able to find a marriage on freebmd using her married surname for spouse and her Christian name. Try from when she about 20

Is she still alive ?

If not her birth would be shown on the death cert

There are roundabout ways of finding info

Father's name is very hard to read, tried several variations but got nowhere..

No children

Isn’t her father named on the marriage cert?

Did she have children?

How I wish that I had that detail Gwyn, have not been able to find her first marriage, or her maiden name.

I have sometimes seen added detail too like 'previously the wife of (previous husband's name' )

which was very useful.

Thank you.

Dissolved means divorced

For full explanation google ‘marriage dissolved’

I have a marriage certificate showing a marriage in 1969 where the woman's status is shown as previous marriage dissolved. Has anyone else come across this ? Family gossip says that at some point the lady in question was ' sectioned. ' and spent time in some kind of asylum. Not sure what to make of it at all