Genealogy Chat

My grandfather was only 14 when he registered his father's death in 1896. They grew up quickly in those days and weren't children for long.

Sue

Well done Alviegal, great work. I spent an hour or two last night 'walking round' Stockbridge in the 1911 census, starting with the workhouse, and wondering if he had been a rough sleeper at the time of the census.
Thank you all for all your input, much appreciated.
Only wish I could have met Violet, she sounds as though she had quite a tough life

British Royal Navy Seamen 1899-1924
Stockbridge, Hampshire, England

First name(s) Edward William
Last name Doller Alias Newman
Service number 206931
Birth year 1883
Birth date 26 Aug 1883
Birth place Stockbridge
Birth county Hampshire
Birth country England
Archive The National Archives
Archive reference ADM 188/360/206931
Record set British Royal Navy Seamen 1899-1924
Category Military, armed forces & conflict

In REMARKS it reads "Name amended. Date of birth given on entry to be adhered to, although birth date is 26 June 1882."

Oh, good find, Alviegal!

Think this is the 1911 for him.

1911 Census For England & Wales
Half Way Cottages Longstock Stockbridge, Longstock, Hampshire, England

Household members (2 people)
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Tom Isaacs Head Single Male 50 1861 Mill carters Martin
Edgar Dollen Lodger Widower Male 66 1845 Brewery labourer Stockbridge

I did try looking for the 1901 lodger (Thomas Isaac) to see if he was with him but drew a blank

I hadn't found him in the 1911 either

I am waiting the 1921 to see where Violet was when she conceived my Dad. It seems she probably went into service when she left Barnardo's.

Did you find him in 1911?
I can't see him anywhere. Perhaps he was using a completely different name after his 6 months hard labour.

Edgar Dollar, 85, believed to have been the oldest town-crier in the country, has died at Stockbridge, Hants. ...

Published: Friday 16 September 1932
Newspaper: Hampshire Telegraph

Found this

I have always felt the sentences were excessive for the offences committed. They do however fall in line with other crimes committed at the time.

Just for our interest:

Edgar Edward Dollar
in the UK, Calendar of Prisoners, 1868-1929
Name: Edgar Edward Dollar
Trial Age: 65
Birth Date: abt 1845
Trial Date: 5 Feb 1910
Trial Place: Winchester, Hampshire, England
Occupation: Labourer
Charge: "Being entrusted with certain property, to wit, the sum of 2s 4d, the money of William Stevens, in order that he might pay the same to William Needle, did fraudulently convert the same to his own use and benefit, at Stockbridge, on the 10th September 1909."
Sentence: 6 months with hard labour.

Previous sentences:

21/10/1864, 21 days, stealing watchguard.
29/6/1869, 3 months, stealing purse and £3.
6/5/1870,3 months, absconding with workhouse clothes.
6/3/1873, 9 months, stealing coal.
6/1/1899, 7 days, stealing metal spoon.
20/11/1906, 12 days, stealing 12 spoons.

Many thanks Maddie

in case you don't have it
Edgar
Last name Doller
Year 1925
Season Autumn
Polling district or place Stockbridge ------ high street
Constituency P C of Hampshire, Basingstoke Division
Constituency in full Parliamentary County of Hampshire, Basingstoke Division
County Hampshire
Country England
Register type Parliamentary County
Archive The British Library
Archive reference SPR.Mic.P.17/BL.H.17

Thank you ArgyllGran and Alviegirl I have found it

Pure speculation but I am wondering if Edgar Dollar also used the name Young. He had a chequered life.
The UK Register of Habitual Criminals and Police Gazettes 1834-1934 shows him as having committed an offence in 1906 and I have traced quite a few earlier offences
In 1910,he was sentenced to 6 months and it was at that point the vicar stepped in and sent the 2 youngest girls to Barnardo's

You are correct AG that is the full transcription but I have sent a pm to Kentishmaid.

Go to British Newspaper Archive, under "Search" at top right of this page.

Search Hampshire 1902-1902, "all types" of report, with keyword "edgar AND dollar".

You'll need credits to view the original, but I think the full wording is transcribed in any case.

alviegal are you able to send me a copy of that announcement, or a link to it?

Many thanks ArgyllGran

Re 1881 census - yes, you're right, Kentishmaid.
It does say Chilbolton when you know what you're looking for.
I've submitted a correction.

How very strange. She was born on the 4th March, but the certificate has no mention of the name Young