Genealogy Chat

Perhaps it would be useful to research the newly-found 'cousin'

I’ll see what I can find on the cousin.

IF Dolly was indeed an aunt of your father-in-law, perhaps she was from the Russell side of the family?

For example, IF the name Dolly bore any relation to her real name, there was a Euphemia Dorothy Russell born in Edinburgh in 1900, a Doris Margaret in 1903, a Doris Muriel in 1911, a Dolina in 1923, a Dorothy in 1923, a Dolina in 1925, a Dorothy in 1928.

EDIT:
Though maybe Edinburgh is a red herring, as Thomas Dale Russell was born in Dumbarton, in 1902. No female Russells with a Dolly-type name born in Dumbarton.

You might have to delve further back into the Russells - a great-aunt??

Thomas Dale Russell married Annie Evans in Edinburgh and that is where he and Annie’s four children were born.

Annie was Thomas’ second wife and he was almost 50 when his youngest child was born.

I will check the Russell side as well just in case. Any aunt of my father in law could in theory have been almost 60 when he was born.

For time-scale

marriage
RUSSELL
THOMAS DALE
EVANS
ANNIE
1941
685/6 40
Newington

Birth
RUSSELL
THOMAS DALE
M
1902
496/ 544
Dumbarton

Baptism
RUSSELL
THOMAS DALE
----- -----/----- -----
M
8/10/1902
5/6/1912
Glasgow, Immaculate Conception (RC)

Death
RUSSELL
THOMAS DALE
80
DALE
1983
746/ 648
Newington

Only one marriage on SP for his name in full

The parents' marriage

RUSSELL
ALEXANDER
DALE
GRACE
1901
494/2 12
Renton

Thomas was divorced when he married Annie..............how did he manage that? He was baptised RC

He added another name and married as Thomas McFarlane Dale Russell in 1929.

Something I never thought of was first wife was a widow at the time of the marriage and wonder if a child from her first marriage could be aunt Dolly.

I meant how did he wangle the divorce? He was baptised RC


RUSSELL
THOMAS MCFARLAN
PATON
MARY MCDOUGAL M
1929
578/1 71
Ayr
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RUSSELL
THOMAS MCFARLAN
HILSTON
MARY MCDOUGAL M
1929
578/1 71
Ayr

In reality, I doubt if his divorced first wife's child (if there was one) would be known to any of your father-in-law's family................stretching credulity somewhat


HILSTON
MARY MCD M C
PATON
JOHN
1924
578/1 257
Ayr

HILSTON
MARY MCDOUGALL
F
1904
578/2 48
St Quivox

3rd marriage
HILSTON
MARY MCDOUGALL
GARRITY
SAMUEL
1942
578/1 193
Ayr

Death
GARRITY
MARY MCDOUGALL
92
CAMPBELL (MMN)
1997
680/ 10
Ayr

RUSSELL
MARY MCDOUGALL
92
CAMPBELL
1997
680/ 10
Ayr

PATON
MARY MCDOUGALL
92
CAMPBELL
1997
680/ 10
Ayr

HILSTON
MARY MCDOUGALL
92
CAMPBELL
1997
680/ 10
Ayr

Thank you for finding Mary’s first marriage.

Thomas married in Edinburgh the second time and was a very active free mason which then would have at that time got him excommunicated. He was also a fan of Glasgow Rangers football club.

It is possible he simply changed religion to allow him to marry again. The Church of Scotland has for many years had a more relaxed attitude to divorce. Mr Owl and I married in the Church of Scotland and I’m wife number 2. All the minister asked is that I was not involved in the breakdown of Mr Owl’s first marriage.

my husband had a aunt dolly her name was dorothy

Not sure if this helps but these Evans have mmn O’Brien

Age at death Mother's Maiden Name Year Ref RD Name Image View
EVANS
ARTHUR EDWARD
70
O'BRIEN
1982
734/ 393
St Andrew (Edinburgh)

EVANS
ANNIE
76
O'BRIEN
1993
744/ 251
Morningside


EVANS
ELIZABETH
75
O'BRIEN
1997
732/ 438
Leith

EVANS
TERESA MARY
89
O'BRIEN
2009
762/ 584
Midlothian

Could Arthur Edward’s wife Mabel been known as Dolly?

Bit of a long shot here but you say Dolly married someone called Mort


Surname Forename Spouse Surname Spouse Forename Year Ref RD Name Image View
MENDELSON
MORTON
EVANS
ESTHER
1943
685/4 47
St Giles

The above couple emigrated to Australia in 1956 with their two children.

From the emigration records Esther’s dob is 24.3.25

EVANS
ESTHER
F
1925
685/7 131
Morningside

Morton Mendelson and Esther Evans are in a GR tree - their daughter's. Try making contact

Thank you all I’ll have a look as it all looks promising

Morton's death:

Morton Bernard Mendelson
in the Victoria, Australia, Wills and Probate Records, 1841-2009
Name: Morton Bernard Mendelson
Death Date: 5 Aug 2004
Death Place: Altona
Occupation: Retired
Grant Date: 22 Dec 2004

He and Esther are on ERs for Altona for many years.

MENDELSON
MORTON BRANARD
M
1921
685/6 803
Newington


First name(s) Morton
Last name Mendelson
Gender Male
Birth year 1921
Birth day 6
Birth month 11
Marital status M
Occupation Fitter
Departure year 1956
Departure day 18
Departure month 5
Departure port London
Destination port Melbourne

Thank you both

The same person who has Morton Mendelson on their tree on here also has Victor Evans b. 1910 on her tree. I would think that there is a good chance that Esther is Victor’s sister and your “Aunt Dolly”.