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Thank you both for your time and this additional information, the family is all coming together now.

Best Wishes
Maureen

Not relevant to your search, but posting anyway - re the Cartwright family whom Mary is visiting in 1901:

Jane has remarried by 1911:

George Livis
in the 1911 England Census
Name: George Livis
Age in 1911: 13
Estimated birth year: abt 1898
Relation to Head: Stepson
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Prescot, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Newton in Makerfield
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address: 2 Swan Road Newton Common
Occupation: Winder Up At Glass Bottle House
Registration district: Warrington
Registration District Number: 459
Sub-registration district: Newton in Makerfield
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Piece: 23111
Household Members:
Name Age
Edward Brown 33
Jane Brown 35
Margaret Brown 7
Edward Brown 5
Henry Brown 4
Jane Brown 2
James Brown 8/12
George Livis 13
John Thomas Cartwright 11

First marriage:

Jane Livis
in the Lancashire, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1936
Name: Jane Livis
Gender: Female
Age: 23
Birth Year: abt 1876
Event Type: Marriage
Event Date: 9 Jul 1899
Parish: Parr, Lancashire, England
Spouse: James Cartwright
Spouse Age: 25
Father: Edward Livis
Spouse Father: John Yates
Register Type: Parish Register

Jane Livis
in the 1881 England Census
Name: Jane Livis
Age: 5
Estimated birth year: abt 1876
Relationship to Head: Daughter
Father: Edward Livis
Mother: Martha Livis
Gender: Female
Where born: Parr, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Parr
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address: 7 Stone Street
Education:
Employment status:
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Occupation: Scholar
Registration district: Prescot
ED, institution, or vessel: 23
Neighbors:
Piece: 3737
Folio: 143
Page Number: 65
Household Members:
Name Age
Edward Livis 30
Martha Livis 30
Jane Livis 5
Sarah Livis 3
Henry B. Livis 1

Deaths Dec 1889 (>99%)
Livis Martha 38 Prescot 8b 502


By 1891 Edward has remarried, and Jane has left home, but Isabella and Mary have been born:

Edward Lewis
in the 1891 England Census
Name: Edward Lewis
Gender: Male
Age: 40
Relationship: Head
Birth Year: 1851
Spouse: Esther Lewis
Child: Henry Lewis
Mary Lewis
Isabella Lewis
Birth Place: Pendlebury, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: St Helens
Ecclesiastical parish: St John
Residence Place: St Helens, St Helens, Lancashire, England
Registration district: Prescot
Sub registration district: St Helens
ED, Institution or Vessel: 36
Neighbors:
Piece: 3026
Folio: 90
Household Members:
Name Age
Edward Lewis 40
Esther Lewis 40
Henry Lewis 11
Mary Lewis 8
Isabella Lewis 6
James Hart 74 - cousin


Marriages Dec 1890 (>99%)
Lewis Edward Wigan 8c 160
Lowe Esther Catherine Wigan 8c 160


LIVIS, MARY mms BURROWS
GRO Reference: 1883 M Quarter in PRESCOT Volume 08B Page 786

LIVIS, JANE mms BURROWS
GRO Reference: 1876 M Quarter in PRESCOT Volume 08B Page 746


LEVIS, ISABELLA mms BURROWS
GRO Reference: 1885 M Quarter in PRESCOT Volume 08B Page 779

LEWIS, SARAH mms BURROWS
GRO Reference: 1878 M Quarter in PRESCOT Volume 08B Page 728

1901 for the other Livis girl

12, Owen Street, St Helens, Prescot, Lancashire, England
Edward Livis Head Widower Male 51 1850 Coal Miner Hewer Lancashire, England
Isabella Livis Daughter Single Female 16 1885 - St Helens, Lancashire, England
Joseph Cartwright Son-In-Law Married Male 36 1865 Glass Cutter (Plate) St Helens, Lancashire, England
Sarah Cartwright Daughter Married Female 23 1878 - St Helens, Lancashire, England


Marriages Mar 1901 (>99%)
CARTWRIGHT Joseph Warrington 8c 213
LIVIS Sarah Warrington 8c 213

As already posted by Shirley, Mary Livis is on Pennington Lane in 1901 - so possibly in Burton Wood Cottages:

Mary Livis
in the 1901 England Census
Name: Mary Livis
[Mary Lewis]
Age: 18
Estimated birth year: abt 1883
Relation to Head: Visitor
Gender: Female
Birth Place: St Helens, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Burtonwood
Ecclesiastical parish: St Michael
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address: Pennington Lane
Occupation:
Registration district: Warrington
Sub-registration district: Sankey
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors:
Piece: 3577
Folio: 7
Page Number: 5
Household schedule number: 22
Household Members:
Name Age
Jane Cartwright 25
George Livis Cartwright 3
John Thomas Cartwright 1
Mary Livis 18



The first page of this set of 41 pages of records, where all the streets, houses, etc are listed, mentions "Evans New Cottages, otherwise called Burton Wood Cottages".

I can't see Evans New Cottages listed specifically in the 41 pages of the set.
However, going by the list of streets/houses on page 1, it looks as if they are somewhere between pages 5 and 12, although not named.
Mary Livis in Pennington Lane is on page 6.

None of the houses are numbered, which doesn't help.

I don't see any Mugan listed.

There's a James Morgan on page 13, but born in Wales, not Ireland.

Thank you ErikaH

I will investigate these new records.

I did get the address of the marriage in 1901 in Warrington of James Mugan and Mary Levis, 14/16 Burton Wood Cottages, Warrington. by 1911 they had moved to Golborne his father John listed was listed as a Fruiterer. need to find who lived in Warrington address in 1901.

Thanks

Marriage: 19 Dec 1909 St Mary RC, Oldham, Lancashire, England
Joannem Mugan -
Elizabeth Maher -
Groom's Father: Jacobi Mugan
Bride's Father: Joannis Maher
Witness: Michaele Mugan; Maria Higgins
Married by: Joannes Kiely
Source: Original Register at Lancashire Archives

A member of the 'other' family, I suspect

1911

1 Court 1 Derker Street Oldham, Oldham, Lancashire, England
James Mugan Head Married Male 32 1879 Railway Goods Porter Charlestown Co Mayo Ireland Resident
Mary Ann Mugan Wife Married Female 28 1883 - Lanc Manchester
Thomas Mugan Son - Male 6 1905 - Lanc Oldham
John Mugan Son - Male 5 1906 - Lanc Oldham
Margaret Mugan Daughter - Female 1 1910 - Lanc Oldham


Marriage: 15 Aug 1904 St Mary RC, Oldham, Lancashire, England
Jacobum Mugan -
Mariae Annae Patterson -
Groom's Father: Jacobi Mugan
Bride's Father: Joannis Patterson
Witness: Michael Mugan; Maria E. Clare
Married by: Patricius Ramsbottom
Notes: [Groom's and witness surname originally written Mewgan then amended to Mugan.]
Source: Original Register at Lancashire Archives

Baptism: 4 Feb 1906 St Mary RC, Oldham, Lancashire, England
Joannes Mugen - filius Jacobi Mugen & Mariae Annae (formerly Patterson)
Born: 2 Jan 1906
Abode: 5 Back
Godparents: Birgitta Patterson
Baptised by: T. J. Carroll
Source: Original Register
Baptism: 8 Mar 1908 St Mary RC, Oldham, Lancashire, England
Maria Josephine Mugan - filia Jacobi Mugan & Mariae Annae (formerly Patterson)
Born: 1 Feb 1908
Abode: 9 Cochrane St.
Godparents: Jacobus Patterson; Birgita Patterson
Baptised by: J. Kiely
Source: Original Register

ErikaH

Thank you SO much for all this information, it will be a great help, i am trying to help sort out these Mugan families for a friend. He does have the marriage cert for 1901 in Warrington for James Mugan and Mary Levis/lewis. will check out address. Looks like Thomas may have married Levis also, will need this cert.

Its difficult as James Mugan and John Mugan i suspect brothers married Mary's in the same year 1873 in Charlestown, both occupation the same and called all the children same christian names I have marriage record of John father Thomas but not James his marriage only a Church record with no fathers names listed, looks like they all came over to Lancashire.

Thanks again

Deaths Mar 1954 (>99%)
CARNEY Patrick 78 Leigh 10d 57

Don't know which Thomas this is...................

1939
11 Mersey Street, St Helens, St Helens C.B., Lancashire, England
Thomas Mugan 05 Jun 1878 Male Colliery Day Wage Man Married 225 1
Isabella Mugan 09 Feb 1885 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 225 2
Maria (Marie) Kay (Houghton,Mugan) 22 Nov 1919 Female Laundry Maid Single 225 3
The record for this person is officially closed.
Elsie Rafferty (Mugan) 01 Jan 1926 Female At School Single 225


1911
7 May Street Golborne Lancashire's, Golborne, Lancashire, England
Thomas Mugan Head Married Male 31 1880 Labourer Underground Charleston Co Ireland
Isabella Mugan Wife Married Female 26 1885 House Keeper St Helens Lancashire
John Mugan Son - Male 5 1906 - St Helens Lancashire
Mary Mugan Daughter - Female 2 1909 - St Helens Lancashire


Marriages Sep 1904 (>99%)
Livis Isabella Prescot 8b 1240
Mugan Thomas Prescot 8b 1240


Name: Thomas Mugan
Gender: Male
Birth Date: abt 1880
Birth Place: Charlestown, Mayo
Enlistment Age: 34
Marriage Date: 9 Jul 1904
Marriage Place: Parr
Document Year: 1914
Regimental Number: 12557
Regiment Name: Prince of Wales's Volunteers (South Lancashire) Regiment
Number of Images: 6
Form Title: Short Service Attestation
Family Members:
Name Relation to Soldier
Thomas Mugan Self (Head)
Isabella Livis Spouse
Mary Mugan Child
John Mugan Child
Sarah Mugan Child
Thomas Mugan Child
James Mugan Child

1939

4 Turton Street, Golborne, Golborne U.D., Lancashire, England
Patrick Carney 26 Dec 1875 Male General Labourer Unemployed Married 303 1
Mary Carney 06 Jan 1881 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 303 2
William Carney 06 Nov 1909 Male Driller Colliery Plant (Engineering) Single 303 3
Patrick S Carney 16 Aug 1915 Male Plater & Labourer Colliery Plant (Engineering) Single 303 4
Margaret Carney 20 Dec 1916 Female Sugar Confection Manufacturer Single 303 5
Anthony Carney 17 Feb 1919 Male Art Silk Wash & Bleach ? - 303 6
Richard Carney 19 Apr 1922 Male Process Worker Textile Bleaching ? Single 303 7
John Carney 05 Jun 1925 Male Van Driver Assistant Single 303 8

1911

Residents of a house 11 in Kiltamagh (Kiltamagh, Mayo)
Carney James 35 Male Head of Family R Catholic America Shopkeeper Read write English Irish Married - 14 - 7
Carney Bridget 33 Female Wife R Catholic Charles Town - - English Married - 14 10 7
Carney Antony 13 Male Son R Catholic England Scholar Read write English Single - - - -
Carney James 10 Male Son R Catholic England Scholar Read write English Single - - - -
Carney John 7 Male Son R Catholic England Scholar Read write English Single - - - -
Carney Bridget 4 Female Daughter R Catholic England Scholar - English Single - - - -
Carney Willie 3 Male Son R Catholic England Infant - English Single - - - -
Carney Martin 2 Male Son R Catholic Kiltimagh Infant - English Single - - - -
Carney Mary Female Daughter R Catholic Kiltimagh Infant - - Single

Married 14 years - 10 children born - 3 have died

Marriages Dec 1903 (>99%)
CARNEY Patrick Leigh 8c 415
Mugan Mary Leigh 8c 415

1911

20 Turton Street Golborne, Golborne, Lancashire, England
Patrick Carney Head - Male 34 1877 Coal Hewer Colliery Kiltimagh C M Ireland
Mary Carney Wife - Female 29 1882 - Charlestown C M Ireland
Mary Carney Daughter - Female 5 1906 - Golborne Lancashire
Annie Carney Daughter - Female 4 1907 - Golborne Lancashire
Agnes Carney Daughter - Female 2 1909 - Golborne Lancashire
William Carney Son - Male 1 1910 - Golborne Lancashire
Ellen Carney Daughter - Female 0 1911 - Golborne Lancashire
William Carney Boarder Single Male 24 1887 Coal Hewer Colliery Kiltimagh County Mayo Ireland
Thomas Murphy Boarder Single Male 18 1893 Coal Miner Filler Charlestown County Mayo Ireland

CARNEY Agnes MUGAN 1908 Lowton Wigan & Leigh LOW/39/91

CARNEY William MUGAN 1909 Lowton Wigan & Leigh LOW/40/31

1901

28, Turton Street, Golborne, Leigh, Lancashire, England
James Carney Head Married Male 25 1876 Colliery Labourer Underground United States
Bridget Carney Wife Married Female 22 1879 - Ireland
Anthony Carney Son Single Male 2 1899 - Golborne, Lancashire, England
Ellen Carney Daughter Single Female 1 1900 - Golborne, Lancashire, England
James Carney Son Single Male 0 1901 - Golborne, Lancashire, England
John Mogon Boarder Single Male 17 1884 Colliery Labourer Underground Ireland
Patrick Carney Boarder Single Male 25 1876 Colliery Labourer Underground Ireland
Thomas Conner Boarder Single Male 19 1882 Colliery Labourer Underground Ireland


CARNEY, ANTHONY MUGRAN
GRO Reference: 1898 J Quarter in LEIGH Volume 08C Page 268

CARNEY, ELLEN MUGEAN
GRO Reference: 1899 J Quarter in LEIGH Volume 08C Page 282

CARNEY, JAMES MUGRE
GRO Reference: 1901 J Quarter in LEIGH Volume 08C Page 285


Marriages Jun 1897 (>99%)
Carney James Leigh 8c 371
Morgan Bridget Leigh 8c 371

Another variant

Name: John O'Brien
Registration Year: 1910
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration district: Oldham
Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 8d
Page: 927

Ellen Meegan
Ellen Muga?N
John O'Brien

The 1901 marriage cert will have the groom's address. Might be worth investing in it

Name: James Mugan
Gender: Male
Birth Date: abt 1884
Enlistment Age: 30
Marriage Date: 20 Apr 1901
Marriage Place: Burtonwood Lancashire
Document Year: 1914
Residence Place: 18 Turton St, Golborne
Regimental Number: 156179
Regiment Name: Connaught Rangers
Number of Images: 6
Form Title: Short Service Attestation

Name Relation to Soldier
James Mugan Self (Head)
Mary Lewis Spouse
Mary Mugan Child
Jane Mugan Child
John Mugan Child
Ellen Mugan Child
Maria Mugan Child

Look for variants
1939 from FMP

16 Caunce Avenue, Golborne, Golborne U.D., Lancashire, England
James Morgan 12 Jul 1876 Male General Labourer Unemployed Married 175 1
Mary Morgan 01 Jan 1883 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 175 2
Marie Wilcock (Morgan) 28 Jun 1905 Female Artificial Silk Twister Single 175 3
John Morgan 18 Jun 1910 Male Constructional Plater Widowed 175 4
Mary Rowley 19 Apr 1914 Female Weightier Sugar Confectionery Married 175 5
William Morgan 04 Sep 1919 Male Fitters Apprentice Single 175 6
Terence Morgan 15 Apr 1935 Male Under School Age Single 175 7

Ancestry has transcribed the surname as MAGAN

Marriage: 28 Mar 1910 St Mary RC, Oldham, Lancashire, England
Joannem O'Brien - 10 Guildford St.
Helenam Mugan - 6 Guildford St.
Groom's Father: Thomae O'Brien
Bride's Father: Joannis Mugan
Witness: Jacobus Pomfret, 5 Little Moor Lane; Sarah Anna O'Brien, 10 Guildford St.
Married by: Michael Buckley
Notes: Ipse baptizat. Sancti Patricii apud Oldham. Ipsa baptizat. Sanctae Mariae apud Oldham.
Source: Original Register at Lancashire Archives

Maybe

Mary Livis
[Mary Lewis]
Age: 18
Estimated birth year: abt 1883
Relation to Head: Visitor
Gender: Female
Birth Place: St Helens, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Burtonwood
Search Photos: Search for 'Burtonwood' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection
Ecclesiastical parish: St Michael
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Warrington
Sub-registration district: Sankey
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3577
Folio: 7
Page Number: 5
Household schedule number: 22
Household Members:
Name Age
Jane Cartwright 25
George Livis Cartwright 3
John Thomas Cartwright 1
Mary Livis 18