Genealogy Chat

Hi,

I am trying to find out what happened to William Wass Davies born 1888 in Newcastle upon Tyne.

Son of Charles Wass Davies and Anne Morrison Todd

He had an older brother also called Charles Wass Davies (born 1881) who seems to be knocking about in Newcastle until about 1960. Married but no record of children.

I can see them in the 1891 census and a William Davis (aged 24) with brother Charles Davis (aged 30) living with George Innerd and "wife" in the 1911 census (possibly them as the father died in 1898).

Any hints would be much appreciated.

For our info - his birth registration

Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
DAVIES, WILLIAM WASS TODD
GRO Reference: 1888 J Quarter in NEWCASTLE-UPON-TYNE Volume 10B Page 143

Baptised 18 April 1888 (? your Ancestry tree) St Anne's, Newcastle

The 1891 census you refer to - (your Ancestry tree I presume)

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Days Buildings, Maling Street, All Saints, Newcastle upon Tyne, Northumberland, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Charles Davis Head Married Male 47 1844 Gen Labourer Leeds, Yorkshire, England
Ann Davis Wife Married Female 35 1856 - Newcastle, Northumberland, England
Charles Davis Son Single Male 10 1881 Scholar Newcastle, Northumberland, England
William Davis Son Single Male 3 1888 - Newcastle, Northumberland, England

Nothing else about him on the tree

And this is who you believe is William and Charles in 1911 ?

1911 Census For England & Wales
1 Potter St St Peters Byker Newcastle on Tyne, Byker, Northumberland, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
George Innerd Head Married Male 60 1851 Labourer Newcastle St Peters
Wife Innerd Wife Married Female 62 1849 - Newcastle St Peters
Charles David Son Married Male 30 1881 Labourer Newcastle St Peters
William David Son Married Male 24 1887 Labourer Newcastle St Peters
George Innerd Son Married Male 14 1897 Errand Boy Newcastle St Peters

George says he's been married for 10 years, had 8 children - 3 of whom are still living, 5 have died

Charles and William on the image are both Davis. Charles is shown as married there but William as single

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Sep 1900 (>99%)
Davis Ann Wass Newcastle T. 10b 270 <<<<<<<<
Grant Maggie Aitchison Newcastle T. 10b 270
Maccoy Thomas William Newcastle T. 10b 270 S
Innerd George Newcastle T. 10b 270 <<<<<<<<<

??????
1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Elswick, Newcastle upon Tyne, Northumberland, England

First name(s) William
Last name Davis
Relationship Inmate
Marital status -
Sex Male
Age 13
Birth year 1888
Birth town Newcastle on Tyne
Birth town as transcribed NEWCASTLE
Birth place England
Birth place other as transcribed -
Birth county Northumberland
Birth county as transcribed NORTHUMBERLAND
Parish Elswick
Country England
County Northumberland
Municipal ward Arthurs Hill
Registration district Newcastle upon Tyne
Piece number 4774
Folio 185
Page 11
Record set 1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Category Census, land & surveys

Is this the George Innerd from the 1911 census?

Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
INNERD, GEORGE ROBERT TODD TODD
GRO Reference: 1897 M Quarter in NEWCASTLE-UPON-TYNE Volume 10B Page 158

freebmd transcriptshows this birth as George Robert S Innerd - but original is as per GRO

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Yet, as you say, Charles Wass Davis / Davies died 1898

Name: Age at Death (in years):
DAVIS, CHARLES WASS 48
GRO Reference: 1898 D Quarter in NEWCASTLE-UPON-TYNE Volume 10B Page 42

Presumably Ann and Charles had separated before 1897, but of course, apart from the circumstantial evidence of young George's birth, there's no way to prove that.

Ann and George senior were then able to marry after Charles's death.

Deaths Sep 1965 (>99%)
INNERD GEORGE R T 68 GATESHEAD 1A 660

Unless he married as George only or out of England/Wales I'm not seeing a marriage for him

Not helpful re William, but.......

1939

55 St Lawrence Road, Newcastle-Upon-Tyne C.B., Northumberland, England
Charles W Davis 02 Apr 1881 Male General Labourer Widowed 245

Also not helpful re William - but -

George Innerd
in the UK, WWI Pension Ledgers and Index Cards, 1914-1923

View Original Image on Fold3.

Name: George Innerd
Gender: Male
Rank: Pte
Record Type: Disability
Birth Date: 1897
Residence Place: St Peters, Newcastle - On - Tyne
Military Service Region: Northern, England
Discharge Date: 29 Mar 1920
Service Number: 58515
Corps, Regiment or Unit: R A S. C.
Service Branch: Military (Army)
Title: PRC Ledgers
Description: Pension Record Ledger
Reference Number: 2/MI/No.12
Next of Kin:
Name Relation to Soldier
George Innerd

If this is the morther's death, there is no indication of a second forename

Deaths Mar 1929 (>99%)
Innerd Anna 64 Tynemouth 10b 471

...although she used one when she married for the first time

Marriages Sep 1876 (>99%)
DAVIES Charles Wass Newcastle T 10b 249
Todd Ann Morrison Newcastle T. 10b 249

There is a woman named Mary Davis living in the same house as Charles jnr in 1928

Thanks to all.

Greyghost - that is my tree on Ancestry.

It does seem odd that Ann had a child with George Innerd before her first husband had died. They were possibly separated, or maybe he was in hospital for a long time before he died and she needed someone else to support her and the family.

Shame there is no next of kin or family address noted on the George Innerd war pension record. I wondered whether William might have joined up also. He would have been 26 at the start of the war.

Think the Anna Innerd death in 1929 is from the marriage of
george Innerd to Anna Dixon in1887
The Absent voters list has the name of George Henderson Innerd for Service No;58515.
We could paper the walls with all these George Innerd's