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Charles Laurence Pearson
in the UK, WWII Royal Artillery Tracer Cards, 1939-1948
Name: Charles Laurence Pearson
Enlistment Date: 15 Aug 1940
Branch of Service: Army
Regiment: Royal Artillery
Military Unit: RA
Service Number: 1626674

Will PM you the image as an attachment.

(Apologies for jumping in, Rose.)

But there's nothing to identify which of several Charles Lawrence/Laurence Pearsons that might be.

Hi Rambling
Please could you send me Charles attestation record as mentioned above
Thank you

I can't find any likely Ruth B Dawson, nor any marriage of a Ruth B to a Dawson.

Hi all sorry for late reply but have been away
All this looks really interesting so i will have a really good loolk at it all when i get bsck
Thsnk you so much for all your help and interest
Julie

Just for interest re harvesters going to Canada:

"English: Two men in a wheat field in Alberta, Canada in 1928. Original caption: "Ted Dixon of Chichester and Joe Johnson of Sheldon, Durham 1928. British harvesters in a western canadian wheatfield holding the sheaves of grain they have helped to garner." This image is part of the Colonial Office photographic collection held at The National Archives in the United Kingdom.
Date 1928"

https://tinyurl.com/y4ca3h52


And more about the 1928 Harvesting Scheme:

https://johnhoughton.me.uk/?p=736
https://tinyurl.com/y3jlwcdh

Kenneth returning to the UK after only a few months.

He's in a list headed "Harvesters (Fare paying)" - just went for a summer job??

Kenneth Pearson
in the UK, Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960
Name: Kenneth Pearson
Arrival Age: 19
Birth Date: abt 1909
Port of Departure: Montréal, Québec, Canada
Arrival Date: 3 Nov 1928
Port of Arrival: Liverpool, England
Ports of Voyage: Greenock; Belfast
Ship Name: Andania
Shipping Line: Cunard Steamship Company Ltd
Official Number: 145934

Proposed address: 5 Hope Terrace, Tow Law.
Occupation: Miner.

Kenneth Pearson, born in Middlesboro 1910, going to Canada:

Kenneth Pearson
in the Canadian Passenger Lists, 1865-1935
Name: Kenneth Pearson
Gender: Male
Arrival Age: 18
Birth Year: abt 1910
Birth Country: England
Departure Port: Liverpool, England
Arrival Date: 25 Aug 1928
Arrival Port: Quebec, Canada
Vessel: Andania


The record says he's a miner, but going to be a farmer in Canada.

His NOK in the UK is his mother, Mrs Ruth B Dawson, 9 Inkerman, Tow Law.

Hmmm - interesting!

Pure conjecture -

Maybe he was Annie's son, but not by Fred, and her infidelity might have been the reason for the break-up of the marriage.
If she said she was single, that would result in his birth being registered as Pearson with no mms.

Or maybe he was Fred's son, but born after the break-up, with Annie claiming to be single when she registered the birth.

Maybe Annie had scarpered after his birth, or was with a new partner who didn't want the baby, and Fred either wasn't interested or couldn't cope with a baby.

He obviously accepted Kenneth at some point, as they're together in 1939.

As I said - conjecture!

Wonder why Kenneth is sort of boarded out

Kenneth Pearson
Age in 1911: 1
Estimated birth year: abt 1910
Relation to Head: Visitor
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Middlesbrough, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: Bishop Auckland
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County/Island: Durham
Country: England
Street address: 7 Gibbon St Bishop Auckland
Registration district: Auckland
Registration District Number: 547
Sub-registration district: Bishop Auckland
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Piece: 29711
Household Members:
Name Age
George Richardson 52
Sarah Richardson 53
Lenore S J Richardson 20
Charles Henry Child 18
George Inwood 18
James Ward 48
Kenneth Pearson 1
W L Frier 21
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Source Citation
Class: RG14; Piece: 29711

Wonder who his mum was !

However, there may be some link to your Annie Knaggs.

Her father John was born John Sigsworth Knaggs, and married Sarah Carter:

John Sigsworth Knaggs
in the England & Wales Marriages, 1538-1988
Name: John Sigsworth Knaggs
Gender: Male
Age: 21
Birth Date: abt 1850
Marriage Date: 25 Dec 1871
Marriage Place: Rillington, Yorkshire, England
Spouse: Sarah Carter


Annie's birth again, with mms:

KNAGGS, ANNIE mms CARTER
GRO Reference: 1875 D Quarter in MALTON UNION Volume 09D Page 368


I think Robert Sedgwick Knaggs in 1911 is the same person as John Sigsworth Knaggs - both born 1851 in Weaverthorpe, both builder-related occupations.

There's no sign of "Robert" 's birth (nor of him in any other census), but there is John's:

Births Dec 1850 (>99%)
Knaggs John Ligsworth Driffield 23 56
Knaggs John Sigsworth Driffield 23 56



BUT that doesn't help find Annie Knaggs (and hopefully Charles) in 1911.

???

Annie Mann
in the 1911 England Census
Name: Annie Mann
Age in 1911: 39
Estimated birth year: abt 1872
Relation to Head: Wife
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Rillington, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: Armley and Bramley
County/Island: Yorkshire-West Riding
Country: England
Street address: 6 Cabul Row Wortley Rd Armley Leeds
Marital status: Married
Occupation: Housewife
Registration district: Bramley
Registration District Number: 499
Sub-registration district: Wortley
ED, institution, or vessel: 42
Piece: 26912
Household Members:
Name Age
Alfred Mann 39
Annie Mann 39
Robert Sedgewick Knaggs 60 - boarder, widowed, building labourer



EDIT:

NO, that Annie's maiden name was Carter:

Alfred Mann
in the West Yorkshire, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1813-1935
Name: Alfred Mann
Marriage Age: 27
Event Type: Marriage
Birth Year: abt 1872
Marriage Date: 23 Sep 1899
Marriage Place: Bramley, St Peter, Yorkshire, England
Parish as it Appears: Bramley, St Peter
Father: Andrew Mann
Spouse: Ann Carter

There is no birth of an Ann(ie) Knaggs anywhere in England/Wales in 1876-8, per FreeBMD.

The marriage to Fred for our reference:

Annie Knaggs
in the West Yorkshire, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1813-1935
Name: Annie Knaggs
Marriage Age: 19
Event Type: Marriage
Birth Year: abt 1877
Marriage Date: 23 May 1896
Marriage Place: Bramley, St Peter, Yorkshire, England
Parish as it Appears: Bramley, St Peter
Father: John Knaggs - mason
Spouse: Fred Pearson


With her father in 1891:

Annie Knaggs
in the 1891 England Census
Name: Annie Knaggs
Gender: Female
Age: 15
Relationship: Daughter
Birth Year: 1876
Father: John Knaggs
Birth Place: Rillington, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: Bramley
Residence Place: Bramley, Bramley, Yorkshire, England
Sub registration district: Bramley
ED, Institution or Vessel: 11
Neighbors:
Piece: 3674
Folio: 84
Household Members:
Name Age
John Knaggs 40
Annie Knaggs 15


Annie Knagga
in the 1881 England Census
Name: Annie Knagga
[Annie Knaggs]
Age: 5
Estimated birth year: abt 1876
Relationship to Head: Daughter
Father: John Knagga
Mother: Sarah Knagga
Gender: Female
Where born: Rillington, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: Bramley in Bramley
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Street address: Spetch Yard
Registration district: Bramley
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Neighbors:
Piece: 4501
Folio: 117
Page Number: 9
Household Members:
Name Age
John Knagga 30
Sarah Knagga 27
Robart Knagga 9
Mary Knagga 7
Annie Knagga 5
Elmry Knagga 3
Kate Knagga



Rillington's in Malton reg district, so this her birth:


Births Dec 1875 (>99%)
Knaggs Annie Malton 9d 368

They are separated by 1911

Fred Pearson
Age in 1911: 34
Estimated birth year: abt 1877
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Leeds, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: Bradford
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County/Island: Yorkshire-West Riding
Country: England
Street address: 70 Thorpe Shearbridge Bradford
Marital status: Married
Occupation: Warehouseman
Registration district: Bradford
Registration District Number: 498
Sub-registration district: Horton
ED, institution, or vessel: 40
Piece: 26850
Household Members:
Name Age
Fred Pearson 34
Margaret Hannah Holmes 34 boarder single occ laundress

He says married 14 years 2 children born I still living

Did she revert to her maiden name maybe

View England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007
Order death certificate for Annie Knaggs
Add Alternative Information
Report issue
Name: Annie Knaggs
Death Age: 63
Birth Date: abt 1877
Registration Date: Oct 1940
[Nov 1940]
[Dec 1940]
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration district: Calder
Inferred County: Yorkshire West Riding
Volume: 9a
Page: 1244

Edit no this lady was married to a George knaggs

His father Fred's army record says Fred is married but separated by 1917.

No children are listed.

Fred Pearson
in the British Army WWI Service Records, 1914-1920
Name: Fred Pearson
Gender: Male
Birth Date: abt 1877
Enlistment Age: 40
Marriage Place: Parish Church Bramley Nr Leeds
Document Year: 1917
Residence Place: 70 Thorpe St, Shearbridge Bradford
Regimental Number: 25806
Regiment Name: Lincolnshire Regiment
Number of Images: 45
Form Title: Record of Service
Family Members:
Name Relation to Soldier
Fred Pearson Self (Head)
Annie Knaggs Spouse


By 1939 Fred's in Bradford, with a new partner, Charlotte, but doesn't appear to have married her.
Has a son Kenneth (18 May 1910, married) and a daughter-in-law Margaret.

No mms for the son Kenneth:

PEARSON, KENNETH -
GRO Reference: 1910 J Quarter in MIDDLESBROUGH Volume 09D Page 570


If Annie remarried (or at least had a new relationship if she remained married to Fred) after she and Fred separated, Charles may have taken her new partner's surname.

Unfortunately there were 15 Charles Pearsons (with no middle initial) born in England/Wales 1899-1901, as well as lots with middle names.

If Charles Lawrence's middle initial happens not to be included in a record, we can't tell if it's him or one of the other Charles Pearsons.

And if no age is given, even if the middle initial is there, we don't know if it's him or one of several other Charles Laurence/Lawrence or Charles L Pearsons.

looks like Louisa died 1903

Deaths Mar 1903 (>99%)
Pearson Louisa Annie 6 Middlesbro' 9d 393

Certainly elusive, I can only find an attestation record from 1940 for a Charles lawrence Pearson, but it does not give any other info.

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census
16, Henry Street, North Eston, Eston, Middlesbrough, Yorkshire & Yorkshire (North Riding), England

Fred Pearson Head Married Male 24 1877 Slagger (Labourer Ironworks) Leeds, Yorkshire, England
Annie Pearson Wife Married Female 24 1877 - Leeds, Yorkshire, England
Louisa A Pearson Daughter - Female 4 1897 - South Bank, Yorkshire, England
Charles L Pearson Son - Male 0 1901 - South Bank, Yorkshire, England

Just for ref

PEARSON, CHARLES LAURENCE mmn KNAGGS
GRO Reference: 1900 D Quarter in MIDDLESBROUGH Volume 09D Page 575