Genealogy Chat

Glad you found your way back Michael. Divorce was expensive so out of the reach of many, often you will find another marriage without a divorce.

I am a bit confused as to why so many of my posts on here have been Reported? Could whoever has done so please contact me to clarify, no offence taken but would like to know why :-) I know that some of them were for the wrong family, as I noted having realised, but one of the posts that has gone was simply saying I had PMd Michael to let him know how to return here.

Who in his or her right mind would report Rambling's posts?

And which reason for so doing would they choose?

Erika, it can't have been data protection as the 1911 census was one of the posts that's gone ( albeit the wrong family) and the 1939 reg for the Ethel Mary who died 1977 was the other :-S In any case I would happily have amended or deleted if asked.

EDIT : The other post that's gone was a link to the CWGC death of Frank the son. born 1922 died 1944 .

My reported posts have been reinstated. :-)

At least GR have their brains in gear....lol!

:-) I'm glad they are back Erika, as it reminded me to ask whether anyone else could see the marriage of Ethel to Mr Curner?

The ONLY reference to Harvey Willie Curner on freebmd is this

Births Jun 1892 (>99%)
Curner Harvey Willie Tavistock 5b 345

There is a marriage in 1932 without a second initial and a death in 1944, again with no 'w'

He didn't marry Ethel - unless it was not in England/Wales

'Living in sin' was much more common than our antecedents would have had us believe!

Possibly someone has put the marriage of Ethel M Cresswell on a tree somewhere but without checking? There is one marriage in 1923 E M Cresswell to Mr Esmond, but it's a different lady. Or at least I assume it is?? EDIT maybe this one?

21 Bulstrode Road, Heston and Isleworth M.B., Middlesex, England

Esmond household
(2 people)
First name(s) Last name(s) DOB Sex Occupation Marital status Schedule Schedule Sub Number
Charles D Esmond 29 Sep 1896 Male Pipe Fitter Railways Widowed 92 1 ( Charles W on image and married)
Mary E Esmond 18 Dec 1893 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 92

Can't get my head round this now. If Ethel May Margaret was born in 1916 and Ethel May didn't marry Cresswell until 1919 she was then Castle as there is no father on the birth certificate. So, if there is no record of a marriage to Harvey Willie Curner with Ethel May is it possible that the daughter of that relationship, Hilda, took her father's name because he appears on her birth certificate? That is then the reason why he freely went on to marry Florence Beatrice Gowing in June 1932 in Wandsworth? Curner was born in 1893 in Bere Alston in 1893 and died Fulham Dec 1937. From DNA testing there is now a link to Nova Scotia, Canada to the illegitimate child of Ethel May Margaret born 1945!

Michael that's pretty much it in a nutshell, there is no marriage that I can find to Curner, unless it was outside England and Wales.

Also outside Scotland.

Not in "World" records on FMP either, so think it's safe to say they didn't marry.

Hilda had the name Curner because the father acknowledged that she was his child. She didn’t ‘take’ the name - it was hers from birth.

Just accept that her mother had her out of wedlock and that she didn’t have a lasting relationship with her daughter’s father

Don’t try to complicate a very simple situation.