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Trying to find more information on William P Harding born 1855 He married a Mable B porter born 1893/1894 in Lambeth She Marrried in 1916 Paddington her mother was Harriett porter born Essex1851 william p Harding had a child with mable B Porter in 1914 called frederick louis harding l would like to know where William P Harding came from and any family he had l do know he lived in london later in life but l think he was born somewhere else Thanking you Virginia Harding

The marriage record disagrees with your date info

Name: William Percy Harding
Gender: Male
Marriage Age: 48**************
Record Type: Marriage
Birth Date: abt 1868
Marriage Date: 19 Sep 1916
Marriage Place: Emmanuel, Paddington, Westminster, England
Father: William Lewis Harding
Spouse: Mabel Bertha Porter Marriage Age: 35*******************************
Father: Reuben Porter
Register Type: Parish Register

First name(s) William Percy
Last name Harding
Gender Male
Birth year 1868
Baptism year 1868
Baptism date 07 Jul 1868
Baptism place SAINT MARTIN,HAVERFORDWEST,PEMBROKE,WALES
Father's first name(s) William Lewis
Father's last name Harding
Mother's first name(s) Ellen Jane
Place Haverfordwest
County Pembrokeshire
Country Wales
Record set Wales Births & Baptisms 1541-1907

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Gloucester Terrace, St Martin, Haverfordwest, Pembrokeshire, Wales

William L Harding Head Married Male 54 1837 Solicitors Clerk Pembrokeshire, Wales
Ellen Jane Harding Wife Married Female 50 1841 - Pembrokeshire, Wales
Annie H M Hogarth Daughter Married Female 25 1866 - Pembrokeshire, Wales
William Percy Harding Son Single Male 22 1869 Solicitors Clerk Pembrokeshire, Wales
Alice J Harding Daughter Single Female 21 1870 Governess Haverfordwest, Pembrokeshire, Wales
Constance E Harding Daughter Single Female 19 1872 Governess Pembrokeshire, Wales
Gilbert J Harding Son Single Male 17 1874 Solicitors Clerk Pembrokeshire, Wales
Reginald H Harding Son Single Male 12 1879 Scholar Pembrokeshire, Wales

1911 Census For England & Wales
Studley Grosvenor Road Muswell Hill N, Wood Green, Middlesex, England

William Percy Harding Head Married Male 40 1871 Town Clerk Wood Green Town and County of Haverfordwest
Cissie Ruth Harding Wife Married Female 28 1883 - Godalming Surrey
Arthur Mansfield Brother In Law Single Male 21 1890 Engineering Student Godalming Surrey
Dorothy Lydia Harding Daughter - Female 6 1905 School Wimbledon Surrey
Eric Mansfield Harding Son - Male 5 1906 School Wimbledon Surrey
Marjory Eleanor Harding Daughter - Female 4 1907 School Wood Green Middlesex
Betty Maris Harding Daughter - Female 2 1909 - Wood Green Middlesex
Emily Gambrell Servant Single Female 21 1890 Domestic Servant Cook Gen'L Milton Regis Kent
Maggie Parker Servant Single Female 22 1889 Domestic Servant Nurse Enfield Middlesex

First name(s) WILLIAM PERCY
Last name HARDING
Marriage quarter 1
Marriage year 1904
Registration month -
MarriageFinder ™

WILLIAM PERCY HARDING married
Cissie Ruth Mansfield

District Guildford
District number -
County Surrey
Country England
Volume 2A
Volume as transcribed 2A
Page number 103


Deaths Dec 1912 (>99%)
Harding Cissie R 28 Edmonton 3a 466

Name: Mabel Bertha Harding
Death Date: 17 Jan 1949
Death Place: Glamorgan
Probate Date: 24 Mar 1949
Registry: Gloucester, England

Name: Mabel B Harding
Death Age: 73
Birth Date: abt 1876
Registration Date: Mar 1949
Registration district: Bridgend
Inferred County: Glamorganshire
Volume: 8b
Page: 38



Births Mar 1875 (>99%)
Porter Mabel Bertha Cardiff 11a 322

1939

Harding Household (2 People)
45 Waterloo Gardens , Cardiff C.B., Glamorganshire, Wales


Mabel (B M) Harding 23 Jan 1875 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Widowed 93 1
Annie B Porter 21 May 1883 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Single 93 2

ANNIE was a witness when Mabel married William

You may need to re-think, as your dates for William and his wife are way out, and this birth looks more like the woman you are researching.

Births Dec 1894 (>99%)
Porter Mabel Beatrice Fulham 1a 226

NO birth in Lambeth to match what you say

Births Jun 1914 (>99%)
Harding Alfred L Porter Lambeth 1d 759

NB............NOT Frederick

Name: Alfred Louis Harding
Death Age: 81
Birth Date: 17 May 1914
Registration Date: Jan 1996
Registration district: Cambridge
Inferred County: Cambridgeshire
Register Number: A42C
District and Subdistrict: 3311A


1939

Name: Alfred L Harding
Gender: Male
Marital status: Married
Birth Date: 17 May 1914
Residence Year: 1939
Address: 1
Residence Place: Chatteris, Cambridgeshire, England
Occupation: Farmers Lorry Driver
Schedule Number: 80
Sub Schedule Number: 1
Enumeration District: TCAA
Registration district: 185/1
Inferred Spouse: Irene Harding
Household Members:
Name
Alfred L Harding
Irene Harding

???

Name: William P Harding
Death Age: 64
Birth Date: abt 1868
Registration Date: Sep 1932
Registration district: Hastings
Inferred County: Sussex
Volume: 2b
Page: 49

OK - starting from another point

1901

Name: Mabel Porter
Age: 8
Estimated birth year: abt 1893
Relation to Head: Daughter
Gender: Female
Mother: Harriet Porter....... says she's a Widow
Birth Place: Kennington, London, England
Civil Parish: Camberwell

Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary Magdalene
County/Island: London
Country: England

Registration district: Camberwell
Sub-registration district: Peckham
ED, institution, or vessel: 19
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 507
Folio: 7
Page Number: 1
Household schedule number: 2
Household Members:
Name Age
Harriet Porter 50
Mabel Porter 8

1911 Census For England & Wales
59 Albert Road Peckham SE, Camberwell, London & Surrey, England

Harriett Porter Mother Widow Female 60 1851 General Work Charing Elemstech Essex
Mabel Porter Daughter Single Female 18 1893 Domestic Service London Kennington

This is NOT the woman who married Harding

THIS is William's wife

Name: Mabel B Porter
Age in 1901: 25
Estimated birth year: abt 1876
Relation: Daughter
Father: Reuben Porter
Mother: Sarah Porter
Gender: Female
Where born: Cardiff, Glamorgan, Wales
Civil Parish: St Mary
Ecclesiastical parish: St Dyfrig
County/Island: Glamorgan
Country: Wales

Registration district: Cardiff
Sub-registration district: West Cardiff
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 26
Piece: 4985
Folio: 82
Page Number: 4
Household Members:
Name Age
Reuben Porter 52
Sarah Porter 48
William L Porter 27
Mabel B Porter 25
Annie B Porter 17
Mary A Morgan 41

William's wife Mabel in 1881 census with her parents and siblings:-

Record Transcription:
1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census
3, Clive Road, Llandaff, Cardiff, Glamorganshire, Wales

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place

Reuben Porter Head Married Male 32 1849 Paper Maker Maidstone, Kent, England
Sarah Porter Wife Married Female 28 1853 - Cardiff, Glamorganshire, Wales
William S Porter Son Single Male 7 1874 - Cardiff, Glamorganshire, Wales
Mabel B Porter Daughter Single Female 6 1875 - Cardiff, Glamorganshire, Wales
Laura Porter Daughter Single Female 3 1878 - Cardiff, Glamorganshire, Wales

Kath. x

Same family in 1891:-

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Penllyn Road, Canton, Cardiff, Glamorganshire, Wales

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place

Reuben Porter Head Married Male 41 1850 Paper Maker England
Sarah Porter Wife - Female 37 1854 - Wales
William Porter Son Single Male 17 1874 Bar Man Wales
Mabel Porter Daughter - Female 16 1875 - Wales
Laura Porter Daughter - Female 13 1878 - Wales
Annie Porter Daughter - Female 7 1884 - Wales
Philip Porter Son - Male 1 1890 - Wales

Kath. x

First name(s) Reuben
Last name Porter
Age 60
Birth year 1850
Burial year 1910
Burial date 02 Feb 1910
Place Llandaff
Parish -
County Glamorganshire
Country Wales
Residence 4 Dyfrig Street, Cardiff
Page 21
Archive type Burials

1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Manor Farm, Marden, Maidstone, Kent, England

Reuben Porter Head Married Male 28 1823 Shoemaker (Journeyman) Sutton Valence, Kent, England
Mary A Porter Wife Married Female 23 1828 Shoemaker Wife Loose, Kent, England
Lewis Porter Son - Male 4 1847 - Bromley, Middlesex, England
Reuben Porter Son - Male 2 1849 - Maidstone, Kent, England
Charles Sears Brother Unmarried Male 14 1837 - Loose, Kent, England

Marriages Sep 1864 (>99%)
Harding William Lewis Haverfordwest 11a 1087
WILLIAMS Ellen Jane Haverfordwest 11a 1087
Wilson James George Haverfordwest 11a 1087


HARDING, WILLIAM PERCY (MMN) WILLIAMS
GRO Reference: 1868 S Quarter in OF HAVERFORDWEST Volume 11A Page 789

I feel it would now be prudent to await the poster's return, to find out which of these people she is related to..................

She has 'Mabel B Porter born 1893' in her GR tree

For information, the Harriet Porter born at Elmstead, Essex was baptised on June 29 1851 at the church of St Anne & St Lawrence, Elmstead, daughter of James and Martha Anne, James was a farmer.