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Can anyone help me trace the birth records of James Jobling. He will have probably be born in the late 1760s to early 1770s

On the 24th December 1792 he married Susanna Lambert at St Bartholomew in Longbenton.

They had 3 children: James Jobling 1799, Susanna Jobling 1801, Mark Lambert Jobling 1803

Also any info on John Beresford Jobling born 1869 Chakrata, Bengal, India.
:-D

Welcome to the boards, Victoria.

There won't be any birth records as such as it was before civil registration. There might be *surviving* baptism records. Not all are online. Surviving RC ones tend to be held by the Diocese.

Have you identified his death? That might give a clearer idea of when he was born.

Familysearch has

Name James Joblin
Gender Male
Christening Date 15 Apr 1765
Christening Date (Original) 15 APR 1765
Christening Place BOLAM,NORTHUMBERLAND,ENGLAND
Father's Name Thomas Joblin

but then they also have

Name James Jobling
Birthplace Of Morpeth
Spouse's Name Ann Burn
Spouse's Birthplace Of Morpeth
Event Date 05 Jun 1792
Event Place Morpeth, Northumberland, England
Marital Status Single
Spouse's Marital Status Widowed
Spouse's Previous Husband's Name Burn

Presumably there are 2 x James Jobling's from Northumberland

Just posting anything with John Beresford Jobling - they may be for a son or other relative.

Anglo-Boer War Records 1899-1902
First name(s) John Beresford
Last name Jobling
Service number -
Rank Captain
Regiment The King's (Liverpool Regiment)
Literary references Rugby School Register
Biography -
Country Great Britain
Record set Anglo-Boer War Records 1899-1902

Britain, Campaign, Gallantry & Long Service Medals & Awards
First name(s) John Beresford
Last name Jobling
Year 1914-20
Service number -
Rank Captain
Regiment Labour Corps
Service record Rank: Captain, Corps: Labour Corps
Image link
Country Great Britain
Medal type British Army Medal Index Cards, 1914-1920
Archive reference WO372/11
Archive reference description Campaign Medal Index Cards and Silver War Badge Cards
Record set Britain, Campaign, Gallantry & Long Service Medals & Awards

Soldiers Died In The Great War 1914-1919
First name(s) John Beresford
Last name Jobling
Service number -
Rank Capt (Tp)
Regiment Labour Corps
Battalion 17th
Residence -
Birth place -
Enlistment place -
Death year 1918
Death day 4
Death month 11
Cause of death Died
Death place -
Theatre of war -

Above from Findmypast
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UK, Hart's Annual Army List, 1908
Name: John Beresford Jobling
Rank: Captain
Regiment: King's (Liverpool)
Military Date: 1 Jun 1891
Publication Year: 1908
Publication Place: London, England
Image says South Africa before the date.

Transvaal Province, South Africa, Estates Death Notice Index, 1855-1976
Name: John Beresford Jobling
Death Year: 1918
Death Country: South Africa
Title: Transvaal Estates Death Index (Master of the Supreme Court, Pretoria)
Source: National Archives, Pretoria
Reference Number: 41326
.......
India, Select Births and Baptisms, 1786-1947
Name: John Beresford Jobling
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 21 Oct 1869
Birth Place: Chukrata Bengal India
Baptism Date: 20 Nov 1869
Baptism Age: 0
Baptism Place: India
Father: Alfred Jobling
Mother: Fanny Catherine
FHL Film Number: 499036
.......
British Army WWI Medal Rolls Index Cards, 1914-1920
Name: John Beresford Jobling
Regiment or Corps: Labour Corps (Captain)

Image says first entered a Theatre of War (France) 18 May 1917.
Died 4 Nov 1918
Awarded the British & Victory medals
.......

John Beresford Jobling
in the England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966, 1973-1995

Name: John Beresford Jobling
Death Date: 4 Nov 1918
Death Place: South Africa
Probate Date: 8 Jan 1921
Registry: London, England

JOBLING John Beresford of Johannesburg South Africa died 4 November 1918 in France
Administration (with Will)
London 8 January to Edward John Stannard solicitor
attorney of Mary Elizabeth Jobling wilow [should be widow]
Effects £215 0s 8d

Above from Ancestry

His entry on CWGC

Captain
JOBLING, J B
Died 04/11/1918
17th Salvage Coy.
Labour Corps
Husband of Mrs. J. B. Jobling. of 99, Grosvenor Rd., London.

AWOINGT BRITISH CEMETERY III. C. 1.

A photo of his headstone is here
https://www.twgpp.org/photograph/view/3950547
You can order an emailed copy in exchange for a donation of £4

UK, Army Registers of Soldiers' Effects, 1901-1929

Name: J B Jobling
Gender: Male
Death Date: 4 Nov 1918
Rank: Captain
Regiment: Labour Corps

It doesn't name his next of kin. There was a massive amount due to his estate totally £112 7s 4d. Privates were lucky if their Estates received £20.
The last entry says the sum owed was transferred to or by Cox & Co.

Added - Cox & Co acted as Agents for the Army.
.....the firm did not just issue pay and manage officers’ bank accounts. Its Insurance Department could arrange to insure the officer’s kit; the Income Tax Department could deal with his tax returns; and the Standing Order Department would ensure that his tailor was paid regularly. Cox’s also sent a cashier with a supply of money to every hospital ship as it arrived, to enable wounded officers to cash cheques.

https://www.lloydsbankinggroup.com
https://tinyurl.com/yb3zk75r

From Findmypast

British Army Service Records

First name(s) John Beresford
Last name Jobling
Birth year 1869
Birth date 21 Oct 1869
Rank 2nd Lieutenant
Regiment 8th Foot (The King's Liverpool Regiment)
Service years -
Series description Wo 76 - Regimental Records Of Officers' Services 1775-1914
Title Preston Record Office
Piece scope 8th Foot (The King's Liverpool Regiment): records of officers' service (Described at item level).
Date of piece 1874 - 1902
Piece number 135
Archive The National Archives
Record set British Army Service Records

Born Chakkrata, India.
Spoke French
Passed through school of instruction - 9 Aug 1889
........
Hart's Army List For 1890
The Kings (Liverpool Regiment)
Appointed 2nd Lieutenant 9 Feb 1889

For INFO

Name: James Jobling
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 13 Apr 1799
Baptism Date: 11 Aug 1799
Baptism Place: Saint John,Newcastle Upon Tyne,Northumberland,England
Father: James Jobling
Mother: Susanna Lambert

Longbenton is part of Newcastle.

The Morpeth James, I would imagine

JOBLING, JAMES 77
GRO Reference: 1841 M Quarter in THE MORPETH UNION Volume 25 Page 240

Probably too old - and the wrong side of the river

JOBLING, JAMES 85
GRO Reference: 1839 S Quarter in GATESHEAD UNION Volume 24 Page 87

In case you don't already have it....................

First name(s) Susannah
Last name Lambert
Birth year 1773
Birth date ? ? 1773
Baptism year 1773
Baptism date 02 May 1773
Parish Warden
Father's first name(s) Mark
Father's last name -
Mother's first name(s) -
Mother's last name -
Residence F
County Northumberland
Country England
Extended information Baptised at Newbrough Chaple

Marriage of the parents of the John born in Chukrata;

Alfred Jobling
in the England, Select Marriages, 1538–1973

Name: Alfred Jobling
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Single
Marriage Date: 6 Dec 1866
Marriage Place: Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Father: Mark Lambert Jobling
Spouse: Fanny Catherine Crosbie
FHL Film Number: 402536
Reference ID: Pg 15 #30


Fanny Catherine Crosbie
in the England, Select Marriages, 1538–1973
Name: Fanny Catherine Crosbie
Gender: Female
Marital Status: Single
Marriage Date: 6 Dec 1866
Marriage Place: Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Father: Robert Crosbie
Spouse: Alfred Jobling
FHL Film Number: 402536
Reference ID: Pg 15 #30

Alfred Jobling
in the 1871 England Census
Name: Alfred Jobling
Age: 31
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1840
Relation: Visitor
Gender: Male
Where born: Newcastle, Northumberland, England
Civil Parish: Liverpool
Ecclesiastical parish: St Catherine
Town: Liverpool
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Registration district: Liverpool
Sub-registration district: Mount Pleasant
ED, institution, or vessel: 20
Household schedule number: 62
Piece: 3783
Folio: 45
Page Number: 11
Household Members:
Name Age
Charles E Crosbie 42
Ada E Crosbie 33
Alfred Jobling 31 - Lieutenant, 55th Regiment
Fanny E Jobling 25
Julia A Jobling 26
John B Jobling 1 - born India <<;<<<<<<<<<<<<
Grace Williams 40
Hannah Jessop 29
Mary Williams 27
Catherine McGowan 41

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Alfred Jobling
in the England, United Grand Lodge of England Freemason Membership Registers, 1751-1921
Name: Alfred Jobling
Gender: Male
First Payment Year on Register: 1873
Year Range: 1863-1887
Lodge: Light on the Hinalayas
Lodge Location: Murrce. Punjab East Indies [Murree Hills ]
Lodge Number: 1448
Folio Number: 121

Other details lost in a fire c1873.

Alfred Jobling
in the England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
Name: Alfred Jobling
Gender: Male
Baptism Date: 27 Jan 1841
Baptism Place: St. Andrew's, Newcastle-upon-Tyne, Northumberland, England
Father: Mark Lambert Jobling
Mother: Juliana Jobling
FHL Film Number: 847924