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My grandmother has her maiden name as Juckes not Jukes on my father's birth certificate

Does anyone know how I start to trace family back from my grandfather, as I can't get info on my grandmother?

Patchem, where does it show Lillian being born please?

Thank you Mel that is my parents marriage

If the Lilian born in 1931 was his sister, then she died, so he would not have any recollection of her:

Deaths Sep 1931
Wilson Lilian R 0 Manchester N. 8d 558

Name: Patricia J G Caldwell
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1967
Registration district: St Austell
Inferred County: Cornwall
Spouse: Brian Wilson
Volume Number: 7a
Page Number: 445

You should be able to find the GRO ref on freebmd for the marriage

will have to get a copy of my mum and dads marriage certificate to find out. They married in 1967 in st Austell registry office in Cornwall. His name was Brian Wilson and my mum was Patricia Gwendoline Jenine Caldwell.

It may be that the parents didn't actually marry - the registrar wouldn't question their relationship when the birth was registered

When your dad married did he give his fathers name and was he annotated as deceased

Maybe the witnesses were family

Was he brought up by his parents or others

Who was the informant on the birth cert

Maybe Kate was what she was called but not her actual Christian name


For instance my paternal gran was Emma anne . She married twice having been widowed and the first two children she had with her second hubby he registered the births , He gave mums name as Annie because that was what he called her !

????

can't find wilfred on the 1939 register

this could be wilfred as its manchester north


England & Wales deaths 1837-2007 Transcription
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First name(s) WILFRED
Last name WILSON
Gender Male
Birth day -
Birth month -
Birth year 1897
Age 40
Death quarter 1
Death year 1937
District Manchester North
County Lancashire
Volume 8D
Page 661
Country England
Record set England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Civil Deaths & Burials
Collections from Great Britain, England

hi
this is 5 style street
thought they might still be there

Anthony Household (16 People) 5 Style Street , Manchester C.B., Lancashire, England
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First name(s) Last name(s) DOB Sex Occupation Marital status Schedule Schedule Sub Number
William Anthony 01 Sep 1875 Male Blacksmith Married 121 1
Sophia Anthony 10 Jul 1877 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 121 2
Annie Hammond 16 Jun 1880 Female Charewoman Single 121 3
Sarah Hynes 01 Dec 1863 Female Charewoman Married 121 4
Bertha Brindley 11 Apr 1881 Female Laundry Maid Married 121 5
John M Bingham 29 Jun 1870 Male Labourer In Iron Works Married 121 6
Mary Huttchinson 03 May 1875 Female Charwoman Single 121 7
Ernies Williams 21 Sep 1873 Male General Labourer Single 121 8
Margaret Williams 08 Aug 1881 Female Laundry Maid Single 121 9
Mary Sheridan 12 Jun 1891 Female Charwoman Widowed 121 10
George Brindley 14 Nov 1870 Male General Labourer Married 121 11
Agnes Smith 22 Aug 1898 Female Hospital Cleaner Married 121 12
Sarah J Mellenton 13 Oct 1869 Female Domestic Servant Married 121 13
William Sidebottom 20 Mar 1883 Male Cotton Spinner Married 121 14
Elizabeth Sidebottom 08 Aug 1884 Female Cotton Mill Worker Married 121 15
George Smith 26 Mar 1876 Male Steel Dresser Married 121 16

Hi safc the address is 5 style street Manchester

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hi

is there an address on the birth cert

This is why I am hitting a dead end, nothing seems to lead anywhere.

Mary my grandmothers maiden name was spelt Juckes not Jukes

Can't see any Wilfred Wilson / Jukes marriage either.

Or Jacques, or any other possible variation.

I've tried looking for a previous marriage of a Juckes (or variation) to a Kate, but nothing obvious leaps out.

EDIT:
But the birth cert says nee Juckes, so that rules out a previous marriage.

oh! that is surprising, as my father never spoke about siblings so I assumed he never had any. Would be interesting if there is a lead to Wilfred Wilson who I assume would also be the father.

Could this be a sister to Brian

Lilian R Wilson mum nee JUKES
Manchester North 1931 8d 846 maybe died Sept 1931 8d 558.

Brian was 8d 731 Manchester North.

So could she have been Kate Jukes!!

Maryb

On my fathers birth certificate it states his mother as Kate Wilson (nee Juckes) It is all very puzzling!.