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Grasping at straws!- Not seeing a connection yet- but as it looks to be an illegitimate birth:

First name(s) FREDERICK A
Last name LITTLE
Birth year 1912
Birth quarter 3
Mother's last name LITTLE
District EDMONTON
County Middlesex
Country England
Volume 3A Page 1192

Address was Runwell StMary,Wickford,Essex

witness are
A Catanach
J Catanach
J Little?

As Gwyn said, witnesses might help.

Who were the witnesses and what was Fred's address on the marriage certificate?

oh dear, occupation not helpful then, lol...could have been under Mothers Maiden Name, as you pointed out, he might not even have been from Essex area, but Kent...

Chris :)

Who were the witnesses to the marriage?

Sometimes they help to find the correct family.Often one has to go 2 or 3 steps back in order to take one forward.

Finding it really strange I can't find his birth details!! Can records go missing or births not recorded? I did wonder if his parents where not married and was born under mothers maiden name?

unemployed I think it says! Not very helpful!

Any Occupation given for George?...

Chris :)

Hi,
Got my Nan and Grandads wedding certificate today. Has his dad down as, George Revell? I don't know if this can help in tracing where he was from and who his family was?

No the first one wasn't him Daniel (just something noticed in newspaper!)

AustinQ has found him above...(keep us posted when you get Cert.)

Chris :)

He was born on 9th may 1912 so not sure if that other family is his? Plus has him being down as born 1906. My Mum only recalls that he might have had a sister but knew nothing else about him ??. I guess i will need to wait for certificate to come through.
Cheers fir your help ??

Looking on google, Egbert Gardens, also Runwell...

Chris :)

Seems to be a little confusion over his birth on the 1939 register:

Looks like it was 29 October, but this is then written over as 9 May- I think they mistakenly entered Ethel's DOB first.

'Albany' Egbert Gardens, Chelmsford Road , Chelmsford R.D., Essex,

Revell Frederick married 9 May 1912 Temporary Bargeman
Revell Ethel V married 29 Oct 1916 Domestic Duties Unpaid
One closed record

The Marriage Cert. will help with name of Father (if known!), address at time, witness names etc. If you post details here when it arrives, hopefully things will move!...

Chris :)

(if relating to Ethel)

18 April 1941 - Chelmsford Chronicle - Chelmsford, Essex, England

POLICE COURTS
Billericay.
For allowing light to show from buildings during the blackout, following were fined: 20/-: Mrs. Ethel Catanach, Lynsford Drive, Runwell


1939 Register (Find My Past)

Ethylbert , Chelmsford R.D., Essex, (Lynsford Drive)
Albert A Catanach 23 Mar 1913 Male Hospital Male Nurse Single
Albert E Catanach 13 Mar 1894 Male Builders Carpenter Married
Ethel Catanach 31 Oct 1894 Female Domestic Unpaid Married

Deaths Sep 1927 (>99%)
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Revell Albert T W 56 Chelmsford 4a 462


Births Mar 1871 (>99%)
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Revell Albert Thomas W Chelmsford 4a 204

Wondering about above, for below...

Chris :)

19 August 1927 - Chelmsford Chronicle - Chelmsford, Essex, England

The funeral of the late Mr. A.T.W. Revell took place at the Borough Cemetery. The mourners were the widow, Messrs. George and Fred. Revell (sons), and Mrs. May, Mr. Coopeif, Mrs. Shelley, Mr. Watkinson (cousins). There were a number of sympathisers and friends ...Mr. H.F. Watts, Undertaker, 17, Friars Place.


Edits

http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl

(searching on Births above, using rev* fre* around 1912, could be a few!)



(newspaper article looks to have been below)

1911 (Find My Past)
Albert T W Revell Head Married Male Retired Butcher 40 1871 Essex Gt Leighs
Susan Revell Wife Married Female - 42 1869 Essex Slock
Albert E Revell Son - Male School 11 1900 Essex Chelmsford
George Revell Son - Male - 7 1904 Essex Chelmsford
Fredrick Revell Son - Male - 5 1906 Essex Chelmsford
Address 71 Baddow Road Chelmsford
Census reference RG14 PN10056 RG78 PN529 RD194 SD2 ED11 SN75
(says Married 15yrs, 3 children born, 3 living)

Hi,
Thanks for your help so far. Unfortunately I don't know his parents names. His a bit of a mystery man. I'm not sure he may have runaway from home on the barges. I've ordered a marriage certificate but I'm not sure if there will be much information on there.

do you know Frederick's parents name

He seems to have added the name later


First name(s) FREDERICK A
Last name REVELL
Gender Male
Birth day -
Birth month -
Birth year 1912
Age 56
Death quarter 4
Death year 1968
District THURROCK
County Essex
Volume 4A
Page 1081
Country England
Record set England & Wales deaths 1837-2007

He married as just Frederick


First name(s) FREDERICK
Last name REVELL
Marriage quarter 1
Marriage year 1939
Registration month -
MarriageFinder™ FREDERICK REVELL married
ETHEL V CATANACH
Spouse's last name CATANACH
District CHELMSFORD
District number -
County Essex
Country England
Volume 4A
Page 913

Note the marriage is still in Chelmsford