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Then there's this from Rootsweb which mentions ALL of the children that you say are in the will but the name is Straw not Shaw:

"Margot,
Of the children of Samuel and Sarah (nee Rowland)
Alfred married Matilda Brown, daughter of John and Mary, in 1860 at the
Independent Chapel in Ilkeston and went on to live in Bramcote and then Long
Eaton.
William Roland Straw didn't in fact marry Hannah Shaw...he married Elizabeth
Mellor, daughter of William and Rhoda (nee Palmer) at St Mary's Church,
Ilkeston in 1848..they too went to live in Long Eaton (The William Straw who
married Hannah Shaw was the son of William and Catherine (nee White))
George Straw married Elizabeth Eyley in 1847, she the daughter of Benjamin
and Mary (nee Husbands)
Sarah Ann died at the family home in Moors Bridge Lane, Ilkeston, aged 29,
unmarried.
Caroline married Benjamin Samuel Brown in 1878.
Charles married Jane Rowley in 1863 and also went to live in Long Eaton.
Julia married Isaac Newton in 1862 and lived at Trowell, Notts where she was
married and then at Sandiacre, Derbyshire.

Father Samuel died on Nov 8th 1872 and wife Sarah on Jul 2nd 1861, both at
Moors Bridge Lane (which is now Derby Rd, Ilkeston)."

Vena, you still didn't answer the question "Do you have a copy of the will?"

Have you even seen the will or are you taking somebody else's word for it?

I am convinced that what you mention is the will of Samuel Straw.

These appear to be the children mentioned in the will.
Children of Samuel Straw & Sarah Rowland:

Baptised 31 Aug. 1820, Ilkeston
Alfred Straw born 4 Sep. 1819, Greasley (this one only has mother's name as Sarah, no surname, all others say Sarah Rowland)

Baptised 2 June 1825, Ilkeston.
William Rowland Straw born 19 Nov. 1820, Greasley
Harrot Straw born 30 May 1823, Greasley
George Straw born 16 March 1825, Greasley

Baptised 8 Feb. 1827, Ilkeston
Sarah Ann Straw born 8 Feb. 1827

Baptised 20 July 1831, Ilkeston
Caroline Straw born 21 July 1828, Stanton
Samuel Straw born 8 July 1831, Stanton

Baptised 20 May 1832, Ilkeston
Charles Straw born 24 March 1832, Stanton

Baptised 27 Jan. 1834, Ilkeston
Julia Straw born 20 Dec. 1833, Stanton

Firstly sincere apologies, we've been on holiday all week, with no internet connection, again I'm so grateful for all your effort and time,
The will we have does say Samuel shaw, but all these names do link, when seeing Samuel does he have a brother named George my 4th great, george was born about 1777 but in 1851 census, it stated he lived in chapel street Ilkeston with his wife Millicent and children, but have always been unable to gain any baptism/ will for George to progress further back

Thankyou sincere apologies we have been on holiday with no internet.... The links seem to be the same, although his will is named shaw not straw.... Our 4th great grandfather is a George shaw brother of Samuel we can't find any baptism on George I have tried to connect looking under straw also, to try connect them
Really appreciate your help
Thankyou

Not seeing an entry for George but there is this for a Samuel around the right time
??????
Sam. Straw
England Births and Christenings
Name: Sam. Straw
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 03 Apr 1796
Christening Place: Ilkeston, Derbyshire, England
Father's Name: Sam. Straw
Mother's Name: Anne
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C01845-7 , System Origin: England-EASy , GS Film number: 1752154 , Reference ID: item 1

Is this your family in 1851? I think her name is Milley on original (Short for Millicent?)

Malley Shaw

in the 1851 England Census
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Name: Malley Shaw
Age: 71
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1780
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: George Shaw
Gender: Female
Where born: Ilkeston, Derbyshire, England
Civil Parish: Ilkeston
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County/Island: Derbyshire
Country: England
Registration district: Basford
Sub-registration district: Ilkeston
ED, institution, or vessel: 3f
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Household schedule number: 142
Piece: 2126
Folio: 248
Page Number: 39
Household Members:
Name Age
George Shaw 73
Malley Shaw 71
Lot Shaw 45
Benjm Shaw 25
Caroline Shaw 29
Clara Woon 19
Fredrick Shaw 14

Same family in 1841. Name is definitely Shaw but there are many Straw families on same page.

Millicent Shaw

in the 1841 England Census
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Name: Millicent Shaw
Age: 61
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1780
Gender: Female
Where born: Derbyshire, England
Civil Parish: Ilkeston
Hundred: Morlestone and Litchurch
County/Island: Derbyshire
Country: England
Registration district: Basford
Sub-registration district: Ilkeston
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Piece: 189
Book: 1
Folio: 9
Page Number: 12
Household Members:
Name Age
George Shaw 60
Millicent Shaw 61
Isabella Shaw 32
Lott Shaw 34
Samor Shaw 24
Caroline Shaw 20

Aww thankyou so much it all connects thankyou margee

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