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This is the second branch of my family that I discovered had emigrated to USA / Canada and then disappeared from all records! I will keep hoping something turns up eventually. Thanks again Margee.

But he doesn't seem to be on the 1940 US census.

Thanks Margee. I meant Alfred not Albert. Sorry. So he went to Detroit. Well done for finding that and thanks again for your help. Will try and trace him and others from there.
John

Alfred not Albert who crossed the border in 1938:

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Name: Alfred Johnson
Arrival Date: 18 Jul 1938
Port of Arrival: Niagara Falls, New York, USA
Departure Contact: Father Albert
Age: 22
Birth Date: abt 1916
Birth Place: Hamilton, Ontario
Gender: Male
Record has photo?: No
Record Type: Cards

Detroit Border Crossings and Passenger and Crew lists 1905-1963

Name:Robert Johnson

Gender:Male

Age:24

Nationality:English

Birth Date:abt 1905

Birth Place:Malton, England

Arrival Date:1 May 1929

Arrival Port:Detroit, Michigan, USA

Departure Contact:Father Albert, Burlington, Ontario

Arrival Contact:Friend Chas Geedwell

I think I found Albert (b 1915 Ontario) United States Border Crossings from Canada to United States. Manifest of Alien Arrivals at Niagara Falls, New York 18 July 1938.
Other than that, the whole family seems to have disappeared, certainly moved elsewhere.
John

Thanks Sylvia and Margee. Much appreciated help. xx

Her death?

Name: Mary Ann Johnson
[Mary Ann Halfield]
Gender: Female
Birth Year: abt 1876
Birth Place: England
Age at Death: 59
Death Date: 27 Dec 1935
Death Place: Halton, Ontario, Canada
Father: William Halfield

Husband was Albert Johnson. Father was William Hatfield. She died of carcinoma of Kidney, metastasis to lungs.

Edit: I posted this before the previous one but for some reason GR has decided to put tomorrow's date on it.

Margee



that is seriously weird :-)

It is laughable, Sylvia, because it's not just the day that is wrong but the time also. It gives a time of 02:03 but it was the first post that I put on the thread so it was between 10:06 and 18:17. How on earth did they come up with 02:03 tomorrow?

:-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D


the post dated 25 th January 2:03


is slipping further and further down the page as more and more psots are made on what is still the 24th





One does just have to laugh!

I'm sure he survived the war, John. There is no record of him being a casualty.There is a good website of Canadian war casualties here and he's not on it:

http://www.veterans.gc.ca/eng/remembrance/memorials/canadian-virtual-war-memorial

Many thanks Margee, what a sad story to come out of this. The death of twin babies must have been devastating. Many thanks for your help. I'm wondering if Albert senior survived as a soldier of WW1 as his death record seems obscured. Hope the rest of the family prospered.

Looks like the marriage date was wrong on the twins birth record.

Marriages Jun 1904 (>99%)
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Hatfield Mary Ann Malton 9d 772
Johnson Albert Malton 9d 772

The twins birth record gives parents' marriage as 22 May 1903, England.

Twins who died.. Both born 15 Feb. 1913, Alfred died 22 Apr. 1913, aged 2 months, 7 days and Albert died 8 May 1913, aged 2 months 23 days. Parents Albert Johnson & Mary Ann Hadfield both born England. Both twins died of ileo-colitis.

Name: Albert Johnson
Gender: Male
Birth Year: abt 1913
Birth Place: Hamilton Haspital
Age at Death: 0
Death Date: 8 May 1913
Death Place: Halton, Ontario, Canada

Name: Alfred Johnson
Gender: Male
Birth Year: abt 1913
Birth Place: Hamilton Haspital
Age at Death: 0
Death Date: 22 Apr 1913
Death Place: Halton, Ontario, Canada

Many thanks guys for these responses! I'm very grateful for your help. I suspected they emigrated to Canada.
I am also pleased to discover that the 1921 census showed that they had (at least) one more child in Canada: Alfred. Thanks Choccy. Further children or grandchildren born in Canada will probably be harder to trace. If anyone can help with this I'd very much appreciate. Great result :-D

OR


there is this one on familysearch ......



Canada Passenger Lists, 1881-1922

Albert Johnson
Canada Passenger Lists
Name: Albert Johnson
Event Type: Immigration
Event Date: May 1911
Event Place: Quebec City, Quebec, Canada
Gender: Male
Age: 32
Birth Year (Estimated): 1879
Birthplace: England
Ship Name: Southwark
Affiliate Film Number: T-4776 , Digital Folder Number: 004543091 , Image Number: 00458


he is travelling with Master Ro Johnson, age 6


https://familysearch.org/search/record/results?count=20&query=%2Bgivenname%3Aalbert~%20%2Bsurname%3Ajohnson~%20%2Bbirth_place%3Ayorkshire~%20%2Bbirth_year%3A1875-1881~%20%2Bresidence_place%3Acanada~%20%2Bresidence_year%3A1910-1921~%20%2Brecord_type%3A%284%29

Mary and the children went out in April 1912 ............................


so Albert must have emigrated between the time of the 1911 Census and April 1912


I wonder ....................................



UK, Outward Passenger Lists, 1890-1960

Name: Albert Johnson
Gender: Male
Age: 31
Birth Date: abt 1880
Departure Date: 15 Jul 1911
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Destination Port: Quebec, Canada
Ship Name: Tentonic
Search Ship Database: Search for the Tentonic in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping line: White Star Line
Official Number: 96334
Master: R W James



This is the only record showing on ancestry during the relevant period.

Canada, Soldier of the First World War

Name:Albert Johnson

Residence:Burlington, Ontario

Birth Date:11 Jan 1879

Birth Location:Fool, Yorkshire, England

Relative:Mary A Johnston