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Yeah the mother registered the birth. Thanks for all your help you've certainly given me plenty to think about.

When a child's birth was reg. there wouldn't be any ref to what names were on the parents marriage cert so she was safe giving her maiden name of Hermitage

It really looks like she had been previously married and then some covering up was done

Because they did......People got confused or tried cover things up...like previous marriages...if she said her name was Denton/Dawton spinster....then when giving fathers name they would automatically think his surname was Denton/Dawton...unless she said otherwise


Who registered the birth of the child was it the mother?

I like what you're saying, its a good theory but why would she use Hermitage on the birth registration of her children and Denton on her marriage certificate. It certainly one big mystery.

I reckon she was Ada Hermitage born 1897 married William Dawton in 1913....maybe Denton was a mistranscription of Dawton.....or she was hiding something...maybe she was still married to William?? who seems to have disappeared after 1917 no death record for him that I can see

William was in the army but was discharged in 1916... details of marriage are on his army pension papers two witnesses that look like May or Mary Hermitage and Ernest Dawton/Denton

Ernest Dawton seems to be his brother...1891 census has the name transcribed as Danton....so it looks very possible it is her

Umm they don't help then


London, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1965
about Christopher Schneider
Name:
Christopher Schneider
Year:
1938
County or Borough:
Tower Hamlets
Ward or Division/Constituency:
Poplar
Street address:
186 [Street-

On this electoral roll she is down as Ada

Witnesses on marriage certificate are M Schneider, who is his brother and B Dowsitt and F Dowsitt

Thomas is down as general labourer on certificate

Yes her father is deceased on certificate

Its a really strange one. The only logical explanation is the m other remarried and some of the children used his name, I'll look into that. Thanks

did it give her father as deceased on the marriage cert?

Deaths Jun 1918
Hermitage Thomas R 55 Medway 2a 877

wonder whether his wife was Tamar not Sumer

Marriages Sep 1893
Hermitage Thomas Robert Medway 2a 1035
Hopkins Tamar Medway 2a 1035

her death

Deaths Dec 1920
HERMITAGE Tamar 61 Medway 2a 818


but still not Denton !!!!!!!

On that census Thomas is a bricklayer/builder Labourer....is there an occupation for him on the marriage cert?

Who are the witnesses?

But the Hermitage family were still using that name in 1920,s

Births Jun 1902 (>99%)
Hermitage Alver Violet Medway 2a 681

Marriages Dec 1921
Hermitage Alver V Howard Medway 2a 1632
Howard Frederick W Hermitage Medway 2a 1632

Thanks for your help is much appreciated

Mary is down on marriage certificate as a spinster.

Maybe then Thomas changed his surname to Denton for some reason

Think you need that marriage cert for Shneider for its info

Info on 1911 census is good. Fathers name on her marriage certificate is Thomas, but they are named as Denton. Her husband Christopher Schneider is the correct Schneider, he ties in with the rest of the family. The 2 children they had Martin and Annie mothers maiden name is down as Hermitage. Are you finding easy to source German records.

Births Mar 1915
Dawton William M Hermitage Medway 2a 1404

Deaths Jun 1915
Dawton William M 0 Medway 2a 988

Births Jun 1917
Dawton Alfred S Hermitage Medway 2a 1160

no more children after 1917


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Civil Registration event: Death

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Name: DAWTON, Alfred Stewart
Registration district: Chatham
County: Kent
Year of registration: 1988
Month of registration: June
Date of birth: 29 May 1917
Volume no: 16
Page no: 516
Reg no:688

Name: DAWTON, Alfred S
Registration district: Medway
County: Kent
Year of registration: 1937
Quarter of registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Spouse's last name: Denniss
Volume no: 2A
Page no: 2082
Name: DENNISS, Hilda M
Registration district: Medway
County: Kent
Year of registration: 1937
Quarter of registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Spouse's last name: Dawton
Volume no: 2A
Page no: 2082

It would cost a cert money but wonder if he names his dad on the cert and who the witnesses were