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I wonder about his age re the assault Shirley - will have to research this a little better when I have time. Thanks for pointing it out to me.

I've found this family before Shirley, can't find any connection to my TIencken's though. Must be a common name in Germany. Carol Appleyard is my sister, and I do have access to her Ancestry site. Like me she can't find George Tiencken after 1893. But all these answers to my question have spurred me on and I'll keep digging.

Thank-you

FMP has the right name.

just checking back on him but its a different family

1881 England Census about Alfred E. Tiencken
Name: Alfred E. Tiencken
Age: 8
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1873
Relationship to Head: Son
Father: Hienrick Tiencken
Mother: Elizabeth E. Tiencken
Gender: Male
Where born: Wanstead, Middlesex, England
Civil Parish: Mile End Old Town
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street Address: 146 Turners Road
Education:

Employment status:

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Registration District: Mile End Old Town
Sub-registration District: Mile End Old Town, Eastern
ED, institution, or vessel: 43
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 487
Folio: 52
Page Number: 21
Household Members:
Name Age
Hienrick Tiencken 36 born Hanover -British subject occ costume manufacturer
Elizabeth E. Tiencken 34
Hermmon H. Tiencken 11
Florence Tiencken 10
Alfred E. Tiencken 8
Elizabeth B. Tiencken 6
Alice M. Tiencken 4
Archibald H. Tiencken

Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 487; Folio: 52; Page: 21; GSU roll: 1341107.

The FMP 1911 Alfred Ernest Tiencken, as Alfred Ernest Kinchin on Ancestry.

Chris :)

edits (other Sister Marriage)

Ann Elizabeth Tuncken
[Ann Elizabeth Tiencken]
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1872
Age:24
Spouse Name:James Martin
Spouse Age:26
Record Type:Marriage
Event Date:1 Nov 1896
Parish:Old Ford St Paul
Borough:Tower Hamlets
Father Name:Claus Tuncken
Spouse Father:John Martin
Register Type:Parish Register
(wits. George Alfred Wagitts?, Clara Louisa Balls)

Do you have Ancestry as there are several spelling adjustments done on the family by a Carol Appleyard

You could send her a message to see what her connection is to the family and if she can help with this query

Did an address search but nos 39 isn't listed goes 37 and then 41

Looked on actual census sheet and nos 39 is listed as unoccupied

Certainly looks a possibility it's an apartment over a shop

Name: Tiencken Mr
Number of Males: 1
Household Schedule Number: 381
Street Address: 39 Marchmont Street
Civil Parish: Bloomsbury St George and St Giles in the Fields
Ecclesiastical parish: Woburn Square Christ Church
County/Island: London
Country: England
Residence Year: 1911
Registration District: St Giles
Registration District Number: 12
Sub-registration District: St Giles and Bloomsbury
Sub-Registration District Number: 1
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 39


Why doesn't it show on the actual census tho ?

My paternal grandfather was German he and one of his brothers changed their names from Fahse to Fasey and that was my dads surname from 1907
I have the grt grans death in 1907 but after the 1901 census no sign of the other brothers or my grt grandfather other than on the grt grans death certs showing he was living with the DIL who was Fasey. The widow of the other brother who adopted that name .
I have found .or not found! Lol. It very difficult to trace German ancestors after 1901

1911
TIENCKEN, Alfred Ernest Head Single M 38 1873 Manufacturer Agent Essex Hamstead (Wanstead)
RG number: RG14
Piece: 1170
Reference: RG14PN1170 RG78PN39 RD12 SD1 ED1 SN381
Registration District: St Giles
Sub District: St Giles and Bloomsbury
Enumeration District: 1
Parish: St Giles in the Fields and St George Bloomsbury
Address: 39 Marchmont Street Bloomsbury
County: London

(do you mean above 1911?)

Chris :)

1911 (or below)
TANAKA, Dr Boarder M 36 (ABOVE 36) 1875 Doctor Of Medicine Japan Visitor
RG number: RG14
Piece: 1184
Reference: RG14PN1184 RG78PN39 RD12 SD1 ED15 SN283
Registration District: St Giles
Sub District: St Giles and Bloomsbury
Enumeration District: 15
Parish:
Address: 76 Gower Street W C
County: London

I was wondering that myself Shirley. His father was german and he had a german sirname: Tiencken. I thought he might have changed it WW1 time as a lot of german people did back then. But that is 16 years after he disappeared. I can't find any death record for him, and I've looked at variation of spellings. Can't find him on the 1901 census, there is a Mr Tiencken in Bloomsbury on the 1911 census but it just says 'Mr Tiencken' and gives the address - no other information!
I'll keep looking.
Thanks everyone for having a look for me. x

Well we have all found info like yourself up to when he went in prison but after that zilch. Wonder if he changed his name so that's why we can't find him :-(

Thanks for that Maddie, it was very interesting. He didn;t last long in service did he. So he must have gone to the workhouse when he left, and from there to prison. Just need to find out what happened to him when he was released now.
Thanks again.

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First name(s): George

Last name: TIENKEN

Calculated year of birth: 1873

Parish of birth: Bethnal Green

Town of birth: London

County of birth: Middlesex

Age at attestation: 18 years 11 months

Attestation date: 1 March 1891

Attestation corps: 5TH BATTN THE RIFLE BRIGADE REGIMENT

Attestation soldier number: 2602

Discharge rank:

Discharge corps: Rifle Brigade (Prince Consort's Own)

Discharge soldier number:

The National Archives reference: WO96

There are 3 images available for this soldier


he lived at 9 Ranwell Street, Old Ford Row, Bow
he was single and a labourer
he was discharged as an invalid
he was 5foot 8 1/2 inches tall
weighed 149 lbs
fair complextion, grey eyes, brown hair
religion C of E

served from 1st March - 11th April 1892

you will need find my past as the image is on there

i found it on here

https://familysearch.org/#form=historical_records

Thank-you MarieCeleste.

Thank-you everyone. I lose him after 1892. I can only think that he died. went overseas or changed his name.

safc - how do I search a Militia Service Record - that looks a possibility?
Thank-you

????

George Tienken, "United Kingdom, Militia Service Records, 1806-1915"
Name: George Tienken
Event Type: Military Service
Event Year Range: 1806-1915
Event Place: United Kingdom
Birthplace: Middlesex
Birth Year (Estimated): 1873

several records on FMP
GENERAL INTELLIGENCE.
George Tiencken, an inmate of the Poplar Workhouse, is under remand charged with having fractured the skull of the labour-master by striking
Gloucester Citizen
South West, England
24/10/1892


MURDERO US A SSA ULT.
MURDERO US A SSA ULT. George Tiencken, 37. was charged at the Thaires Police Court on Saturday wiih committing a violent a«sault on William D- an, labour m-ister at the Poplar Workhouse, by striking him on t .c head with a broom, and fracturing his skull
Morning Post
London, England
24/10/1892

The written newspaper report def has his age as 37 which us way out as he was only about 18 at the time . So is this the right guy?

LONDON, MONDA V, OCTOBER S4, 1592.
George Tiencken, an inmate of the Poplar Workhouse, is under remand at the Thames Police Court, charged with having fractured the skull
Morning Post
London, England
24/10/1892

POLICE INTELLIGENCE.
The Defendant : A very little one. — Mr. Horace Smith adjourned the summons for medical evidence to be called. THAMES George Tiencken was charged, on remand, with violently assaulting William Dean, labour master at Poplar Workhouse. — Mr. Hay Young prosecuted
London Standard
London, England
05/11/1892

Name: Claus Tiencken
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1832
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1895
Age at Death: 63
Registration District: Poplar
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1c
Page: 489


Name: Elizabeth Mary Tiencken
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1839
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1896
Age at Death: 57
Registration District: Poplar
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1c
Page: 366

The 1897 marriage for Charlotte is on Ancestry but as Kinchen.

He was not a witness