Genealogy Chat

I am in possession of a found WW1 medal and have I think (!) traced it's recipient to a war cemetery in Italy.

I am eager to return the medal to the soldiers family but can trace them only as far as his children. Genealogy is not one of my natural gifts.

My regional branch of the Royal British Legion suggest you people may be able to assist. Hoping for help!

Thank you, Tat Mersy.

Go to SEARCH top right hand of the page and then click on SEARCH ALL TREES. Complete the form that comes up with the information you have and see if anybody on Genes has him in their family tree. You can then contact them providing the still have the same e-mail address as when they joined.

Hello Tat, if you want to give us the details that you know about the person we'll do what we can to help.

As already suggested can you give some details

Have you found his service record, pension record or medal card yet. Although 70% of WW1 records were destroyed during WW2

Have you found his entry on CWGC site

PM sent to Tat to help him back to the thread

Hi Any name , army number embossed on the side? may get more info if there is!!

So much help! Thank you.

My fella was John Henry Noble, eldest son of Mark & Annie of Deene Hse, Byron Place, Clifton, Bristol. His medal gave him the second initial B, but the Royal British Legion tell me that these initials were often confused, for some reason. Through the CWGC I have discovered he was a Lance Corporal in the Royal Engineer's, 48th Signals, service no. 500227. He served in France and Flanders, died on 10/01/18 and is buried at the Bordighera British Cemetery in Italy, grave ref. IV A 9. He signed up in Nailsea, Bristol

The 1911 census sees him living at 1 Osborne Rd, Southville, Bristol, working as a postman, he was born in 1871. Married to 34 year old Annie (Bancroft?) for 18 years. Children; Violet Ellen aged 16, Percival Ernest aged 14, Doris Ethel aged 12, Ivor John aged 11, Reginald Lansdowne aged 9 and Cecil Hyatt/Hiatt aged 5.

I can't find any of them beyond this except a possible death record for Cecil Hyatt in London in 1988.

I am slowly going through the trees of people searching for a J Noble, as suggested by Pam.

1911 purely for reference:
Name: John Henry Noble
Age in 1911: 39
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1872
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Nailsea, Somerset
Civil Parish: Bristol
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England
Street Address: 1 Osborne Rd, Southville, Bristol
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Postman
Registration District: Bristol
Registration District Number: 319
Sub-registration District: Bedminster
ED, institution, or vessel: 31
Household Schedule Number: 20
Piece: 14915
Household Members:
Name Age
John Henry Noble 39
Annie Eliza Noble 34
Violet Ellen Noble 16
Percival Ernest Noble 14
Doris Ethel Noble 12
Ivor John Noble 11
Reginald Lansdown Noble 9
Cecil Hiatt Noble 5
Ellen Merrick 77

Wife and children all born Bristol;
Ellen Merrick is a lodger.

???
Name: Percival E Noble
Birth Date: abt 1897
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1968
Age at Death: 71
Registration District: Bristol
Inferred County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 7b
Page: 137

Name: Ivor John Noble
Birth Date: 13 Oct 1899
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1978
Age at Death: 78
Registration District: Weston-super-Mare
Inferred County: Avon
Volume: 22
Page: 1228

Name: Reginald Landsdowne Noble
Birth Date: 9 Sep 1901
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1976
Age at Death: 75
Registration District: Swansea
Inferred County: West Glamorgan
Volume: 27
Page: 2219

Name: Cecil Hyatt Noble
Birth Date: 18 Apr 1905
Date of Registration: Aug 1988
Age at Death: 83
Registration District: Westminster
Inferred County: London
Volume: 15
Page: 1498

Marriage for Percival:

Marriages Jun 1921
Noble Percival E Hext Newport M 11a 326

Rose

NOBLE, Reginald L
Registration district: [?] Swansea
County: Glamorganshire
Year of registration: 1932
Quarter of registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Spouse's last name Cotterell (alice)
Volume no: 11A
Page no: 2443

NOBLE, Reginald Landsdowne
Registration district: [?] Swansea
County: Glamorganshire
Year of registration: 1976
Quarter of registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Date of Birth:9 September 1901
Volume no: 27
Page no: 2219

Marriages Sep 1932
Cotterell Alice L Noble Swansea 11a 2443
Noble Reginald L Cotterell Swansea 11a 2443

Rose

Name: Violet E Noble
Spouse Surname: Arthur S Gillett
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1918
Registration District: Bristol
Inferred County: Gloucestershire, Somerset
Volume Number: 6a
Page Number: 155

Possible children to this marriage:
Name: Madeline D Gillett
Mother's Maiden Surname: Noble
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1920
Registration District: Bristol
Inferred County: Shropshire
Volume Number: 6a
Page Number: 54 See below

Name: John A N Gillett
Mother's Maiden Surname: Noble
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1926
Registration District: Bristol
Inferred County: Shropshire
Volume Number: 6a
Page Number: 17

Sadly:
Name: John Arthur H Gillett
Birth Date: 30 Dec 1925
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1979
Age at Death: 53
Registration District: Bristol
Inferred County: Avon
Volume: 22
Page: 0255s


Name: Madeline D Gillett
Spouse Surname: Arthur G M Coulam
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1942
Registration District: Bristol
Inferred County: Gloucestershire, Somerset
Volume Number: 6a
Page Number: 31

Name: Madeline Doris Coulam
Birth Date: 31 Aug 1920
Date of Registration: Mar 1994
Age at Death: 73
Registration District: Bristol
Inferred County: Gloucestershire
Register Number: A21C
District and Subdistrict: 3011A
Entry number: 1

Just to check we are going down the correct route, can you list the details on the medal?

There are lots of John Nobles and we want to make sure we have the right one.

Rose

Unfortunately there is this one

Name: John B Hope
Regiment or Corps: Royal Sussex Regiment, Royal Sussex Regiment, Royal Engineers
Regimental Number: 265240, 538, 574193

And this one as well

Name: John B Alban Hope
Regiment or Corps: L'pool Scottish , Border Regiment
Regimental Number: 6850, 6850

Two children from Gillett/Coulam marriage but I won't post their details as both may still be alive so sent to Tat by PM.

The medal would have been presented to their great grandfather.

Presumably Tat the medal that you have has the number you gave on the rim ?

which is how you got the details from the CWGC site ?

jan

If the medal number is definitely as stated then these would be his parents (note Anna's maiden name) and would indicate that the family are from Bristol area

Marriages Mar 1871 (>99%)

Hiatt Anna Bristol 6a 10
Noble Mark Bristol 6a 10

How kind you all are! A million thanks.

I must to bed but to answer Janet's query, the medal says; '905 DVR J B Noble RE'
What does the' 905 DVR' refer to?

Anna & Mark were my man's parents - thanks, Janet. And my man and his wife named one of their kids Hyatt, which was spelled 'Hiatt' on some document I saw.

The medal was found on a quiet Bristol street, the kind of street only a local would walk. I'm really hopeful some living relative is somewhere near here. The Royal British Legion suggested I give the medal to the Royal Engineer's Museum. A worthy cause, I'm sure, but I don't feel it's mine to give away. I want John Henry Noble's family to make that decision.

I'm very optimistic. Thank you, all.

London, England, Death Notices from The Times, 1982-1988

Name: Cecil Hyatt Capt OBE Noble
Age: 83
Birth Year: 1905
Death Date: 19 Aug 1988
Published Date: 22 Aug 1988
Spouse's Name: Eugenie Noble


Honolulu, Hawaii, Passenger and Crew Lists, 1900-1959

Name: Cecil Hyatt Noble
Age: 41
Gender: Male
Birth Year: abt 1906
Port of Departure: Melbourne
Port of Arrival: Canton Island
Arrival Date: 10 Mar 1947
Ethnicity/Race/Nationality: Australian

travelling with Eugenie Louise Noble, his wife


New York, Passenger Lists, 1820-1957

Name: Cecil H Noble
Arrival Date: 26 Jan 1950
Birth Date: abt 1906
Age: 44
Gender: Male
Ethnicity/ Nationality: British (English)
Place of Origin: Britain
Port of Departure: Southampton
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Queen Mary
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