Genealogy Chat

Surely the answer was given on here on May 4th by mgnv

try looking at this site

http://liverpool.gov.uk/libraries/archives-family-history/

it has a searchable catalogue so that you can see what records they hold. I think the archive are still in the library which if I remember rightly is only a couple of buildings from the RO. (I've only been the once!)

Hello again mgnv or anyone else who would know,

I am going to Liverpool next week and want to look up a birth/baptism I can't find on Lancashire parish records, Family search, UKBMD, Ancestry or Genes. If it's not on any internet sites, will I be able to find anything in Liverpool and where would I go?
Do I go to the new Liverpool RO near Lime St or a library? My ancestors seem to have lived in the Everton area and were baptised at ST PETERS ,As you may have gathered I'm a novice at this. Any advise would be welcomed. Thanks.

He married Matilda 18/3/1878 and he was 23 bachelor living at 38 Latham St Bolton and he was called Dunne married in the parish church---St Georges.

I have done a search for 1853 Liverpool Cof E baptisms - they all seem to be transcribed for the years which match the LRO records but I can't find a John with parents John & Mary
How old was John on his marriage certificate (I see he spells it Dunne now)

thanks I will do that although I didnt want to rejoin Ancestry unless I need it would help as I've used Ancestry before to search for John Dunn.

I'll make a list like you say and see from there.

Ancestry has some Liverpool stuff online, specifically:
Liverpool, England, Baptisms, 1813-1906 - Updated!
Liverpool, England, Catholic Baptisms, 1802-1906

You can search each collection in 2 ways, both of which I'ld use.
Firstly, I can search the transcriptions by name. However, as you might infer from the "Updated!" comment attach to one title, they've not completed the transcription - at least, that's my guess, so I would also use "Browse this collection".

http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/Liverpool/Everton/index.html lists the CofE churches and the RC churches in Everton, so browse these churches, and see which years are available - make a note, and compare with what LivRO says they have - if Ancestry says it has the years you want, then look up a name, say a name on the first and last pages, and do a search to see if they're transcribed - it's really only the untranscribed ones you need to to browse.

I don't know if it is RC or CofE.

Apologies - I looked at the catalogue for the CofE churches not the RC in the Lancs RO

Thanks to both of you.

So it wouldn't be held at Preston? I will need to go to the RO in Liverpool.

How easy is it to check the records? Would it take all day?

The only records I have ever looked at are the ones at the local library and the Later Day Saints Chorley.

An 1850s baptismal register from Everton will be filled by now (prob filled by the later 1850s). Full regos are deposited in some local archive - back then, it would be the Lancs Record Office, where many of them would have been microfilmed. With the county reorganizations of 1974 et seq, these regos would have benn transferred to the new Liverpool RO (near Lime St Station, but closed for renos for the next 2 wks). Liv' RO would have gotten copies of the Lancs RO films, and probly by now have films of nearly all the regos.
[For clarification, I don't know all this - I'm guessing at bits]
http://liverpool.gov.uk/libraries-and-archives/

if I can get to the Lancs RO in the next couple of weeks I can look at the baptisms they hold there

oh so I may be able to get the details if I go to Everton myself but it would be difficult unless I knew which church.

sorry that is only the registration index. I don't think baptisms at most of the Everton churces are online

yes Matilda Herron. I can trace her parents but not Johns.
The above John Dunn--does it say who his parents were.

I have a copy of the marr cert 1878 when he married Matilda and it says his dad is John (SAILOR)

John seems to say he was born in Everton. this is the only birth I could find for that area (reg dist West Derby)

Births Dec 1853 (>99%)
DUNN John W Derby 8b 347

do you know who John married

No I think that they probably didn't. Also, they don't seem to have had any more children together which is why, when I found Joseph Pink on a census with John Dunn as his half brother, I started to look at the Pinks. But I still can't find any more information on John Dunn's parents. All I know is that they are called John and Mary. I can't find John's (1854/55) birth either.
I would go to Liverpool if it would help but I don't know where to start! It seems Hygeia St is where they lived so maybe I need to find out who else lived on there.

Thanks for checking the details.

no I can't either which is why I was asking. Maybe they never married

She had a baby Joseph Saul Pink 1840-1840, Betsy Pink 1842 Joseph Pink 1848. I have a birth cert for Joseph Pinks was born at Hygeia St Liverpool.

Then she had John Dunn 1855. On the 1861 census there is John Dunn 1820 Mary Dunn 1820 John Dunn 1854/55 living at 18 Hygenia St Everton Liverpool.

I can't find a marriage for John Dunn and Mary Pink

so re Mary Holt

1st marriage:

Marriage: 8 Dec 1834 St Nicholas, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Saul Spencer - Chimney Sweep, Liverpool
Mary Ann Holt - Spinster, Liverpool
Married by Banns by: Thomas Halton Curate

Deaths Sep 1839 (>99%)
SPENCER Saul Liverpool 20 269

2nd marriage

Name: Mary Ann Spencer
Age: Full Age
Marriage Date: 15 Aug 1841
Parish: Liverpool, St Nicholas
Spouse's Name: George Pink
Father's Name: John Holt
Spouse Father's Name: William Pink

George death 1851

When do you think Mary married John Dunn please