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wow i didnt realize he was that important always thought he was very close to the breadline

the family referred to themselves as a "traveler family"

lawrences son john monk couldnt read nor write

wow i didnt realize he was that important always thought he was very close to the breadline

the family referred to themselves as a "traveler family"

lawrences son john monk couldnt read nor write

perhaps he was a well known market trader in Preston

found this in the London Gazette 6th July 1849

Lawrence Monk, formerly of Latham, near Ormskirk, Lancashire, Hawker and
Earthenware Dealer, and late a lodger in Little George-street, Preston, in the said
county, out of business or employment.

and on 14th July 1849 - Court for insolvent debtors

as above plus in Lancaster Gaol

there seems to be a few people trying to find the Monk families in 1841 & 1851

one says there seems to be a district missing for Lathom.

This shows where the Boyes family fit in

James Monk married Ann Boyes 17th July 1850 at St. Martin in the Fields, Liverpool and both their fathers named William were Hawkers.

Here is Ann with her family in 1841 in Lathom
William Boyes 25 Mugman
Mary Boyes 25
Ann 8
Mary 1
Elizabeth Monks 19 -not sure whether this is 9 or 19
William Monks 4 months

James is Lawrences brother???

james monk born 1830 is a younger brother of lawrence born 1820, both in preston

in 1861 james and anne and family are at scarth hill latham where there is a community of monk travelers, hawkers, potters etc

the elizabeth monk with the boyes family is the wife of lawrence, betsy monk (nee ireland) born 1820

william monk born 1841 is the first son of lawrence and betsy and is never seen again , died i suppose

the parents of lawrence and james monk and other siblings

two possibilities

Marriage: 11 Dec 1814 St Laurence, Chorley, Lancashire, England
William Monk - Weaver, Bachelor, Chorley
Mary Atherton - Spinster, Chorley
Witness: Thomas Gray; Hugh Atherton
Married by Banns by: Richard Hodgson, Asst. Curate
Register: Marriages 1813 - 1827, Page 29, Entry 87
Source: LDS Film 93705


Marriage: 25 Jul 1816 St Laurence, Chorley, Lancashire, England
William Monk - Bachelor, Chorley
Mary Aspendell - (X), Spinster, Chorley
Witness: John Aspendell, (X); John Gray
Married by Banns by: Richard Hodgson, Officiating Minister
Register: Marriages 1813 - 1827, Page 65, Entry 193
Source: LDS Film 93705

mary aspendell i think is more likely as the name asendell or aspinwall or aspinall keeps popping up in the familt

but it is all a really tangled web