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This could be your Robert.
Compare the address on the burial of Patience

1861 Address: 5, Collingwood Street, Bethnal Green
TAYLOR, Robert Head Married M 31 1830 Labourer
Bethnal Green, Middlesex
TAYLOR, Matilda Wife Married F 34 1827
Bethnal Green, Middlesex
TAYLOR, Robert J Son Unmarried M 3 1858 Scholar
Bethnal Green, Middlesex

I have also just noticed both Thomas and Patience and Thomas and Jane have sons Robert born 1829 so above Robert could belong to either set.

Thomas and Jane in 1851.
The children are the same but parents now say they are from Ireland?

1851 52, Rosemary Lane, Saint Mary Whitechapel, Tower Hamlets
TAYLOR, Thomas Head Married M 64 1787 Dock Lab
Ireland
TAYLOR, Jane Wife F 53 1798
Ireland
TAYLOR, Richard Son Unmarried M 30 1821 Dock Lab
Whitechapel, Middlesex
TAYLOR, Robert Son M 20 1831 Dock Lab
Whitechapel, Middlesex
, Ann Daughter F 10 1841 Scholar
Whitechapel, Middlesex

Thanks so much for all the information LadyKira. It's a lot to digest and I can see I will need to prescribe to ancestry as it looks like they have far more info than this site.
In one of your posts you say that Patience' marriage to Thomas may have been her second marriage but I'm not following you there. Also could the baptism for her really be her, as it cites her name as being "Hayman" and not Hamon. Could be a spelling mistake? But where did the name of Rogers come from.
A post from Mare Celeste says that there is a whole family of Hamon Rogers but can't find anything on here to suggest that. Thanks for all your help

ok sorry if I am not clear.

Mel posted a possible marriage to Patience Hamon Rogers.
I cannot find any other possible records for her or other Hamon Rogers, It does not mean they are not there. It means I have not found them
Marie has but I has not posted them. I did spot a Hammond Rogers though,

The next thing to remember is that education was not so good and people spelt things as they heard them. The bride getting married would not know if her name was wrong if she could not read it. Accents would also be a problem. You then have the problem of of people transcribing records and not being able to read it. Some of the records are very faint and some are damaged and only partly legible. just say Hamon and Hayman and see if you can tell the difference.

As I mentioned someone on Ancestry has this family and they have recorded her as being London, England, Baptisms, Marriages and Burials, 1538-1812 about Patrence Hayman
Name: Patrence Hayman
[Patience Hayman]
Baptism Date: 13 Apr 1800
Parish: St Anne, Limehouse
County: Middlesex
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Parent(s): James Hayman, -ropemaker
Susanna Hayman
Record Type: Baptism
Register Type: Parish Register

I do not know why they have done this. If you join can contact them to ask them.

A suggested explanation of this would be if she was born Patience Hamon and married a Rogers whose fate we do not know before marrying Thomas Taylor. However I have not found proof of this.

For me the next step would be to continue mapping out the descendants of Thomas and Patience and seeing if there are any other occurences of the name within the family. I would find census baptisms and mariages and deaths and compare addresses. Take it a little at a time and record it all and your sources. Look at other trees but do not take your research from them as they could be wrong.

Hi LadyKiri, I'm so grateful for all the information you have given me and all the advice and tips to carry on with my research. You must have spent a lot of time on this but it has been and will continue to be, most helpful. I will keep you updated as to my findings.
Many thanks
Patricia