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lavender

lavender Report 16 Aug 2012 22:38

I have an ancestor born in Soles, London according to the Census.

I have struggled to find her birth, I might have found it if this area is the Reg District of St. James, Westminster.

I would be very grateful if anybody could enlighten me as I can't find mention of Soles on the web.

Many thanks :-)

patchem

patchem Report 16 Aug 2012 22:40

Could you give us the census details so we can see what Soles could also be?
Thanks

Added:
Several entries for Soles on different censuses.
Definitely Soho on some of them.

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 16 Aug 2012 22:42

Soho ?

Janice

Janice Report 16 Aug 2012 22:44

Found one at random. Image says Soho.

Patchem & GB- snap!

lavender

lavender Report 16 Aug 2012 22:46

I'm not very good at copy/paste but the lady is Therese Webber, she gives her birth as 1866 (I think it might be 1864) and I think that I was looking at her in the 1891 Census.

She was nee Fletcher and her husband is William Webber.

Many thanks patchem x :-)

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 16 Aug 2012 22:50

Yes I would say it was Soho on the 1891

Enumerator did the "h" a bit strange

lavender

lavender Report 16 Aug 2012 22:55

I've just scanned the original and it would appear to be Soho as you have all suggested. There's a lesson for me!

Many thanks to you all for your time. Not sure then that the reg district of Westminster for her birth in 1864 is correct. Am struggling a bit on this one. I can't find a Therese or a Theresa Fletcher in London in 1866, only a Female Fletcher b. 1866 and that was Islington. Been looking on and off all day. x

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 16 Aug 2012 22:56

Do you have the marriage cert?

Bear in mind that her birth might not have been registered

patchem

patchem Report 16 Aug 2012 23:00

Have you got the wedding information for her?

patchem

patchem Report 16 Aug 2012 23:04

Not London?
Marriages Dec 1888
FLETCHER Therese Bristol 6a 105
WEBBER William Bristol 6a 105

lavender

lavender Report 16 Aug 2012 23:07

Yes, I have thank you patchem, a relation sent me a copy of the original certificate only this week.

I also have found her on the census but have spent the day trying to figure out if she was on the 1871 census. I don't think that I have found her there although I have spent some time studying various people.

I have found her on the later ones too with her children, Amy, Dorothy, Lilian and William.

I haven't found her birth, christening... her father is William Fletcher... :-) thank you

lavender

lavender Report 16 Aug 2012 23:09

Sorry, Glitterbaby, I just saw your note. Does that happen that the birth wasn't registered? I suppose that this might mean that people would guess their age. I did wonder whether her husband was just putting her down as the same age as him.

I have got a photograph of her which was a real find! Many thanks for your kind help

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 16 Aug 2012 23:11

Although registration began in 1837 it was not compulsory to register births until 1875 ish

What is the name and occupation of her father on the marriage cert ?

lavender

lavender Report 16 Aug 2012 23:11

Yes, patchem. That is the marriage in Bristol but she says that she was born in London on the Census. Thank you.

lavender

lavender Report 16 Aug 2012 23:14

Her father is William Fletcher on her marriage certificate and it states that he is deceased.

The photocopier has knocked off the end of the profession but is says Electro-plat(er).

Thank you.

lavender

lavender Report 16 Aug 2012 23:15

It says that she is a spinster aged 22 years

patchem

patchem Report 16 Aug 2012 23:50

Just wondered if this is a sister for her, but cannot yet find in 1871 when I hoped that I could find them together
1891 England Census
Amy Fletcher Age: 23 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1868
Relation: Boarder Gender: Female
Where born: Soho, London, England
Civil parish: St George Ecclesiastical parish: St Lawrence
Town: St George County/Island: Gloucestershire Country: England
Registration district: Barton Regis Sub-registration district: St George
ED, institution, or vessel: 16 Piece: 1977 Folio: 10 Page Number: 14
Henry Wallace 42
Rose Wallace 41
Louisa Wallace 20
Agnes Wallace 14
Charles Wallace 13
xxx Amy Fletcher 23
Susan Hill 22
Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 1977; Folio: 10; Page: 14; GSU roll: 6097087.

Who are the witnesses of the wedding?
Thanks

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 17 Aug 2012 00:41

1881 I keep looking at this one but no Therese

Name: William Fletcher
Age: 50
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1831
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary A. Fletcher
Gender: Male
Where born: Ireland

Civil parish: Bristol St Philip and Jacob In
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England

Street Address: 15 Lower Castle St
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Silver Plater (Wh Mat)

Registration district: Bristol
Sub-registration district: St Paul
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 2470
Folio: 30
Page Number: 7
Household Members: Name Age
William Fletcher 50
Mary A. Fletcher 47
Mary Woodhall 16
Malinda Woodhall 14
Amy Fletcher 12
Richard Bees 85
Mary Bees 72
William Sage 25



1871
Name: Milnder Woodall
[Melinda Woodall]
Age: 4
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1867
Relation: Daughter
Mother's Name: Mary A Woodall
Gender: Female
Where born: Bristol
Civil parish: St Peter
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England
Registration district: Bristol
Sub-registration district: Castle Precincts
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Household schedule number: 98
Piece: 2522
Folio: 36
Page Number: 16
Household Members: Name Age
Mary A Woodall 38
Alfred Woodall 11
Mary A Woodall 6
Milnder Woodall 4
Mary Bees 66



Marriages Jun 1880 (>99%)
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Fletcher William Bristol 6a 60
Strange Thomas Bristol 6a 60
Vickery Sarah Bristol 6a 60
Woodall Mary Ann Bristol 6a 60

patchem

patchem Report 17 Aug 2012 06:36

GB,
Yes, I have looked at that one, the London/Soho/Bristol/Plater connection.
Older children (e.g. Therese) sent off as servant(s) because Father remarried is a fairly common occurrence.

lavender

lavender Report 17 Aug 2012 09:34

Yay! patchem!

This was going to be my next search as I had been given a photograph of a lady looking much like Therese Fletcher. I was told that the family member had written Amy O Neill on the back (it was a postcard type taken in Glasgow) and that it might be Therese's sister but was just a guess.

Therese's own daughter was called Amy (her eldest) and that might explain why she eventually settled in Glasgow if her aunt was there??

The names of witnesses on the birth certificates are HJ Coleman and A Taylor, I'm not recognising family but haven't looked into it.

Thank you very much Glitterbaby, I shall take a look this afternoon as I have an appointment this morning. I had seen this one but had discarded it for what reason I can't remember. Knowing me I'm probably wrong, hope so anyway!!

Many thanks to you both for your kind efforts and time given XX :-)